Re: Panel changes for 4.4

Hey Alexander, Johannes,

Johannes Zellner wrote:
> Alexander Iliev wrote
> 
>>> As most of you may know, I'm planning to make some
>>> drastic changes to
>>> the panel for Xfce 4.4. In fact the changes are so big
>>> that you could
>>> speak of a redesign. To make sure that this design will
>>> work well also
>>> for plugin writers (especially for them even), I'm hoping
>>> to get some
>>> feedback on my initial thoughts about the subject.
>>>
>>> I decided to use the excellent Xfce wiki facility for
>>> that -- I don't
>>> even know who provides this for us, but thanks for that
>>> -- so anyone can
>>> add comments.
>>>
>>> Please, if you can spare some time, have a look at
>>> http://www.myoo.de/xfce/index.php/Panel_Design and let me
>>> know what you
>>> think, either here, or personal mail or on the wiki.
>>>
>>> Since none of this has actually been coded yet feel free
>>> to shoot it
>>> down completely and suggest alternative designs ;-)
>>>
>>> I'm most interested in suggestions for the plugin API;
>>> the
>>> implementation is of secondary concern.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>     Jasper
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>>>   
>>
>>
>> I thought of an idea which I think would be good addition.
>> Let me put an example - the Xkb or the System buttons
>> plugins should
>> be able to be added to the panel just once. It doesn't make
>> sense to
>> add two instances of the system buttons (at least IMO).
>> Other plugins
>> (as the launcher or netload) should be able to have whatever
>> number
>> of instances the user wants to have.
>>  
>>
> [...]
> 
>>
>> Hey, thanks for the GREAT WORK all xfce team. :)
>>
>> Alexander
>>  
>>
> Hello
> 
> 1. I don't agree with Alexander's idea for an api that checks if an 
> plugin (eg. volume-control) could be added only for a special number. 
> Everybody should feel free to add as much systembuttens (eg) as he wants 
> to. I mean why to make things difficultier than they are and loos by the 
> way some liberties ?
> 2. I would like to have a better 'position'-concept. the way you can add 
> plugins should be done like in the Toolbar of Terminal.
> I really love this method ;)
> 

Some plugins really have to be 'unique', like the systemtray. For those 
(very few) that need this I prefer to put it in the desktop file.

Thanks,
	Jasper