Re: Peter still in misery (was: Jan doesn't want Peter to know (was: Peter wants

--- In [email protected], "commanonce" <philp@i...> wrote:

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> DB2 is over in Janet Perna's happy 
> little Data Management bunch, where IBM is supposedly pouring $630 
> million into new tools.  

Yer actually right - I've heard from a reasonably well-known IBMers 
that the DB2 folks are 'funny' - IBM is very much a collection of 
little empires, but in the case of DB2, markedly so - the anecdote I 
heard concerned their long-standing grouching & grumbling over terms 
for DB2 inclusion in ADCD.

> The next escalation will be when someone posts looking for help 
with 
> big-name ISV software like Adabas, ACF2, etc.  That could be when 
the 
> ordure finally encounters the air-moving device.

Yer a wee bit out of date - questions have already been raised about 
such. I well-recall someone asking about Focus under Herc a year or 
two ago, for instance.

> I'm amazed to see SHARE tolerating - even perhaps encouraging - 
> distribution of this stuff at its meetings.

'This stuff' being Hercules? Why on earth shouldn't they? It's a 
great freebie. Best thing we can do, is send *every* SHARE attendee 
home with their own personal Herc mainframe in their pocket. If 
enough of them play with it, like it, and realise it could make a 
great single-user z/OS system... well letters from *real* customers 
are bound to carry more weight than those from a bunch of nerdy open-
source types, aren't they? (when it comes to getting IBM to being 
fair about licensing) :-)

Mike



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