RE: Innovation

"ron.hilton" <[email protected]> Thu, 24 May 2012 22:56:47 -0600
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Anzani is displaying the same ignorant mentality that regarded the PCM
industry as mere "clones" of the mainframe. There are plenty of avenues for
innovation in emulation. Downward compatibility and forward progress are not
at all mutually exclusive. If so, IBM's own mainframes would be just as
devoid of innovation as the non-IBM alternatives that Anzani derides.
Furthermore, emulation itself, apart from the architecture being emulated,
is a fertile area for innovation. The "what" may be pre-defined, but the
"how" is wide open. Is biological "cloning" devoid of innovation? Of course
not. I was very proud of what we accomplished at Amdahl and PSI. There was
tremendous innovation displayed by both of those companies, and I'm sure the
same is true of Hercules.

 

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Bowler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hercules-advocacy] Innovation

 

  

"we do not think that mimicking IBM's instruction set architectures on
commodity OEM hardware is in any way innovative"

Thus wrote Mark Anzani, IBM's System z Chief Technology Officer, in a 
letter to TurboHercules dated November 4, 2009.

Here's why he's wrong:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-MVS/message/13183
http://home.comcast.net/~mvsddt/

"The MVS Dynamic Debug Tool is a client/server debugging tool for MVS 3.8 
running under Hercules. MVS DDT consists of two major components:
- The server which executes as a batch job running the MVSDDT program on MVS
-The client which is a Java application running on any platform supporting 
version 6 of the Java Runtime Environment"

This is a fine example of independent innovation made possible by a 
freely-available virtual mainframe.

Roger Bowler
Hercules "the people's mainframe"





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      <p>Anzani is displaying the same ignorant mentality that regarded the PCM<br>
industry as mere &quot;clones&quot; of the mainframe. There are plenty of avenues for<br>
innovation in emulation. Downward compatibility and forward progress are not<br>
at all mutually exclusive. If so, IBM's own mainframes would be just as<br>
devoid of innovation as the non-IBM alternatives that Anzani derides.<br>
Furthermore, emulation itself, apart from the architecture being emulated,<br>
is a fertile area for innovation. The &quot;what&quot; may be pre-defined, but the<br>
&quot;how&quot; is wide open. Is biological &quot;cloning&quot; devoid of innovation? Of course<br>
not. I was very proud of what we accomplished at Amdahl and PSI. There was<br>
tremendous innovation displayed by both of those companies, and I'm sure the<br>
same is true of Hercules.<br>
<br>
_____  <br>
<br>
From: <a href="mailto:hercules-advocacy%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:hercules-advocacy%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a>] On Behalf Of Roger Bowler<br>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:48 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hercules-advocacy%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br>
Subject: [hercules-advocacy] Innovation<br>
<br>
&quot;we do not think that mimicking IBM's instruction set architectures on<br>
commodity OEM hardware is in any way innovative&quot;<br>
<br>
Thus wrote Mark Anzani, IBM's System z Chief Technology Officer, in a <br>
letter to TurboHercules dated November 4, 2009.<br>
<br>
Here's why he's wrong:<br>
<a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-MVS/message/13183">http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-MVS/message/13183</a><br>
<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~mvsddt/">http://home.comcast.net/~mvsddt/</a><br>
<br>
&quot;The MVS Dynamic Debug Tool is a client/server debugging tool for MVS 3.8 <br>
running under Hercules. MVS DDT consists of two major components:<br>
- The server which executes as a batch job running the MVSDDT program on MVS<br>
-The client which is a Java application running on any platform supporting <br>
version 6 of the Java Runtime Environment&quot;<br>
<br>
This is a fine example of independent innovation made possible by a <br>
freely-available virtual mainframe.<br>
<br>
Roger Bowler<br>
Hercules &quot;the people's mainframe&quot;<br>
<br>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
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