Re: Innovation
Tony Harminc <[email protected]> Fri, 25 May 2012 11:45:38 -0400
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--FBtZc26g-3EXIUn0oxiFV3a0nVEFd2crGyW2iTr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24 May 2012 20:06, jim s <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5/24/2012 2:41 PM, John P. Hartmann wrote: >> Explain to me where that is different from the interactive debuggers IBM= peddles. > open source and therefore extensible w/o any need for proprietary > tools. =A0I know of other tools such as various profiler tools that need > access to a debugger to work if one wants to do a non-intrusive analysis. I haven't noticed that MVSDDT is open source. In fact the licence agreement seems quite restrictive - in particular, "You ... are NOT permitted to attempt to modify, de-compile, merge, sell, lease or otherwise mis-use said AUTHOR's PRODUCTS and/or SERVICES". Tony H. --FBtZc26g-3EXIUn0oxiFV3a0nVEFd2crGyW2iTr Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>On 24 May 2012 20:06, jim s <<a href=3D"mailto:jws%40jwsss.com"= >[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > On 5/24/2012 2:41 PM, John P. Hartmann wrote:<br> >> Explain to me where that is different from the interactive debugge= rs IBM peddles.<br> <br> > open source and therefore extensible w/o any need for proprietary<br> > tools. =A0I know of other tools such as various profiler tools that ne= ed<br> > access to a debugger to work if one wants to do a non-intrusive analys= is.<br> <br> I haven't noticed that MVSDDT is open source. In fact the licence<br> agreement seems quite restrictive - in particular, "You ... are NOT<br= > permitted to attempt to modify, de-compile, merge, sell, lease or<br> otherwise mis-use said AUTHOR's PRODUCTS and/or SERVICES".<br> <br> Tony H.<br> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20 <div id=3D"ygrp-actbar" style=3D"clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; whit= e-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%5Bhercules-= advocacy%5D%20Innovation" style=3D"margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A= %20%5Bhercules-advocacy%5D%20Innovation"> Reply to <span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/post;= _ylc=3DX3oDMTJwcG1idGxjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQwODM1ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1= MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzEwMTMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzM3OTYwNzQx?act=3D= reply&messageNum=3D1013">Reply <span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">via web po= st</span></a> | <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/pos= t;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlN25zZzhlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQwODM1ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNz= A1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTMzNzk2MDc0MQ--" style=3D"font-w= eight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy/= message/1009;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM0YzFicDJ2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQwODM1ODYEZ3J= wc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BG1zZ0lkAzEwMTMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzM3OT= YwNzQxBHRwY0lkAzEwMDk-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">5</span>) </div>=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tran= sform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inl= ine;"> </ul> =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-advocacy;_ylc=3DX3oDM= TJlZzNzMGtmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQwODM1ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNl= YwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTMzNzk2MDc0MQ--" style=3D"text-decoration: non= e;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> =20=20 <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkbDlxMnN2BF9TAzk3MzU5Nz= E0BGdycElkAzQwODM1ODYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA3NzA5BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZ= QMxMzM3OTYwNzQx" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/a/i/u= s/yg/logo/us.gif" height=3D"15" width=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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