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> > Several of us have real, provider-independent network presence of one
> > type or another. My own servers have been online on the Internet
> > since 1993, at the same hostnames, under the same domains, spanning
> > several different connectivity providers, in six different physical
> > locations over the years. I get a PIPE FOR BITS from my upstream
> > provider, nothing else. Anything more is a recipe for data loss.
> >
We have been there before and all have fallen by the wayside. So
www.hercules-390.org is way out of date. www.hercules-390.eu only briefly
mentions V4....
> > I suggest that any non-mailing-list content be hosted on a site like
> > that (mine or someone else's), or at groups.io, which is currently, to
> > borrow a term from the US FDA, "GRAS"...Generally Regarded As Safe.
> >
> > Of course groups.io will eventually be invaded and strip-mined by
> > suits as well, at which time it too will go down the same crapper as
> > Yahoo. But that's many years down the road, and we'll move to its
> > successor then.
> >
> > I am willing to assist with parts of this process if the list owner
> > needs/wants such assistance.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
>
> I can't agree more with what you wrote, Dave.
>
> Free services can be trusted as much as a free lunch.
>
> Well, if I remember correctly, US people are used to say "a free lunch
doesn't
> exist".
>
> We have to options here, pay for a commercial service, hosting the groups
on
> private server managed from somewhone who can be trusted at least for a
> decade.
>
> Peppe.
>
At present, the groups.io model is, but I don't expect this to last, is that
free groups get a ride along because some else is paying but there is spare
space.
Why pay when you can get it for free? Well if you want them to import data
from Yahoo or if you need more than 1GB of data its or If you want direct
add of members then you need a premium group which costs $100/year.
There are integrations so you can as members to fund the fees.
Personally, at this point I expect things to fragment. I don't know if
anyone who is active has moderator privileges and can see the membership
list?
I suspect even if they could its full of old and bouncing members, so I
don't believe we can migrate the members. The e-mail part will continue to
function for now, but there are no moderators we can't add new members (all
groups become private). We will possibly see rival lists set up at google
groups, groups.io , http://www.classiccmp.org, and some ones private server.
Note sure what will happen to the files. At present groups.io is the only
place they can be stored with a group...
Dave