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On 10/16/19 1:03 PM, 'Jeremy Nicoll' [email protected]
[hercules-390] wrote:
>> > With services like this one pays both for storage and downloading
>> > bandwidth, but as these are 'proper' commercial services one might
>> > reasonably expect that they will continue to be around.
>>
>> I'd not trust a corporation as far as I can throw it with something
>> like this, honestly. Always be ready and able to move.
>
> You surprise me. Their entire business depends on being reliable data
> providers for the world.
That's what it looks like on the surface, yes. This is by design.
It's called "marketing".
> Why should their data-centres, management etc be less robust than
> the (frankly awful, IMO) Yahoo systems which we seem to have been
> happy enough to use for so long?
Robustness isn't the issue. Network robustness has been a solved
problem in the real data processing world (as opposed to the Windows
world) for decades. The problem is suits and money.
Yahoo became awful when the suits came in and started treating it as
nothing more than a generator of short-term profit. Nearly all of their
skilled developers (many of whom I knew) left, and lesser people took
their places, causing the whole thing to become awful. Remember the
"Neo" user interface change a couple of years ago? Awful. People were
happy enough to use them after that point due only to inertia and the
endless bickering that happens (and is happening this afternoon) on
dozens of different mailing lists.
Yahoo was built by people who actually, personally, genuinely CARE
about the content, the communities they were serving, and the Internet
as a whole. When the suits came in, the singular focus became money.
Eventually this happens to nearly every company. I've seen it countless
times, and have lived through it personally more times than I'd like to
think about, with companies very much like (and in the same business as)
Yahoo.
So, when the singular focus becomes money, any product that doesn't
generate enough profit is summarily shut down. There are exceptions to
this, but in the real world such exceptions are rare. Surely you've
been in a situation in which a company is providing a product or service
that you like, and suddenly it's not available anymore. This happens
all the time with network-based services as well, and the reason is money.
If a corporation gives you something for free, it's because they've
found a way to make money doing it. I've said it before and I'll say it
again: YOU are the product.
This is a solved problem. Move it to groups.io like everyone else.
When groups.io gets suits and begins to suck, which will be at least a
few years down the road, move again. That's the way this works.
I'm having this exact conversation and answering the exact same
questions on so many mailing lists this afternoon that I'm starting to
just cut-and-paste the text.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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