Re: Yahoo Groups to be made useless.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019, at 18:46, Dave McGuire [email protected] [hercules-390] wrote:
> On 10/16/19 1:03 PM, 'Jeremy Nicoll' [email protected]
> [hercules-390] wrote:
> >> > With services like this one pays both for storage and downloading
> >> > bandwidth, but as these are 'proper' commercial services one might
> >> > reasonably expect that they will continue to be around.
> >>
> >> I'd not trust a corporation as far as I can throw it with something
> >> like this, honestly. Always be ready and able to move.
> > 
> > You surprise me. Their entire business depends on being reliable data
> > providers for the world.

>   That's what it looks like on the surface, yes.  This is by design.
>  It's called "marketing".

Are you saying that - say - trusting Amazon S3 storage is a mistake?   I'm
not suggesting that any one provider is the only place to keep anything, 
but surely they've got a certain amount of professional datacentre
experience behind them?


>   Yahoo became awful ...

I agree it didn't start off awful, and then became worse.  But as far as I 
know none of us have ever paid them for their (groups) service.  I know
they have other paid-for services, but how is that relevant here?


>  So, when the singular focus becomes money, any product that doesn't
> generate enough profit is summarily shut down.  There are exceptions to
> this, but in the real world such exceptions are rare. 

I still don't see why that means one couldn't/shouldn't trust a commercial
CDN.    For example, all of the BBC's TV streams (as far as I know) come from
CDNs.  Ill-infomed users talk about "the BBC's servers"... but of course they're
paying to use someone-else's.


Many of us have websites; few of us host them on our own servers.

I don't run a mail-server; instead I use what I hope are technically solid, 
reliable companies to do that for me.

> Surely you've
> been in a situation in which a company is providing a product or service
> that you like, and suddenly it's not available anymore.

Nope.  Because - so far - I've picked companies who do what they're paid
to do.


-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.