Re: Hercules connection to physical ibm 3179 terminal
"George Shedlock [email protected] [hercules-390]" <[email protected]> Sat, 7 Mar 2020 14:38:37 -0500
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--------------914F5C04F49D8CF3D5C7EC2D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit First, I would strongly suggest moving this to the groups.io group. There you will get more and possibly better responses. Second, Were you able to get an inventory of all of the parts and pieces (including cables)? George On 3/7/2020 2:34 PM, [email protected] [hercules-390] wrote: > > Hi Devin, > > I second Fish’s advice for you to join the groups.io Hercules-390 > group, this Yahoo group is now moribund. > > That said, I believe I remember seeing messages within the last few > years somewhere, maybe on this group and maybe elsewhere, that there > are terminal controller boxes that had an Ethernet connection option > (not sure of the device numbers, possibly one of 3174/3274) so if one > or more of those controller boxes is among the many peripherals you > were given you may be able to cobble something together that could > connect to a Hercules system. Something like: > > 3179 terminal -> coax cable to 3x74 controller -> ethernet connection > to router -> IP of Hercules running on a PC system > > At least I think it is possible, but please don’t take my word for it > – I’m definitively NOT a hardware guru. > > The people at the Living Computers: Museum and Lab may be of some > assistance to you. Their website is here: > > https://www.livingcomputers.org/ > > HTH > > Peter > > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:31 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [hercules-390] Hercules connection to physical ibm 3179 > terminal > > > > > Greetings. I've been quiet here, reading in the background for quite > some time. I have had an interest in learning about mainframes for > some time. > > A deal came along, and i am picking up a couple very large Z systems > from a datacenter. Where i am going to put them and power them is > another issue though. > > I was given many peripherals that went along with older systems from > the datacenter, and i picked up a lot of 3179 terminals with the > keyboards. > > They appear to connect via a coax jack on the back. I was curious if > there is a way to use these terminals along with an emulated Hercules > system. > > I have many of the terminals, I was hoping to get a few set up > connected to an emulated system if possible. > > -- > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> --------------914F5C04F49D8CF3D5C7EC2D Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">First, I would strongly suggest moving this to the groups.io group. There you will get more and possibly better responses.</div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br> </div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Second, Were you able to get an inventory of all of the parts and pieces (including cables)?</div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br> </div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">George</div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br> </div> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/2020 2:34 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [hercules-390] wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:[email protected]"> <span> </span> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Devin,<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">I second Fish’s advice for you to join the groups.io Hercules-390 group, this Yahoo group is now moribund.<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">That said, I believe I remember seeing messages within the last few years somewhere, maybe on this group and maybe elsewhere, that there are terminal controller boxes that had an Ethernet connection option (not sure of the device numbers, possibly one of 3174/3274) so if one or more of those controller boxes is among the many peripherals you were given you may be able to cobble something together that could connect to a Hercules system. Something like:<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">3179 terminal -> coax cable to 3x74 controller -> ethernet connection to router -> IP of Hercules running on a PC system<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">At least I think it is possible, but please don’t take my word for it – I’m definitively NOT a hardware guru.<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">The people at the Living Computers: Museum and Lab may be of some assistance to you. Their website is here:<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.livingcomputers.org/" moz="true">https://www.livingcomputers.org/</a><o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">HTH<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Peter<o></o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <div> <div style="border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> <br> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, March 7, 2020 2:31 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [hercules-390] Hercules connection to physical ibm 3179 terminal<o></o></p> </div> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><br> <br> <br> <o></o></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;">Greetings. I've been quiet here, reading in the background for quite some time. I have had an interest in learning about mainframes for some time.<o></o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;">A deal came along, and i am picking up a couple very large Z systems from a datacenter. Where i am going to put them and power them is another issue though.<o></o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;"><o> </o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;">I was given many peripherals that went along with older systems from the datacenter, and i picked up a lot of 3179 terminals with the keyboards.<o></o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;">They appear to connect via a coax jack on the back. I was curious if there is a way to use these terminals along with an emulated Hercules system.<o></o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;"><o> </o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;">I have many of the terminals, I was hoping to get a few set up connected to an emulated system if possible.<o></o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;"><o> </o></span></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;">--</span><span style="color:white;"><o></o></span></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="width: 55px;"><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank" moz="true"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png" alt style="width: 46px;height: 29px;" moz="true" width="46" height="29"></a></td> <td style="width: 470px;color: #41424e;font-size: 13px;font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;" moz="true">www.avg.com</a> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1" moz="true"> </a></div> <!-- end group email --> </blockquote> <p><br> </p> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; 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