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Hi Chris,
Many thanks, I think this is very helpful.=20
Cheers,
Michael
> Am 13.04.2020 um 23:22 schrieb cjar1950-/[email protected] [H390-MVS] <H390-MVS@ya=
hoogroups.com>:
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> Michael,
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> If it helps, Wikipedia "IBM System Management Facilities" has a
> reference "Examples of SMF Reports - http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_exampl=
e_list.htm <http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_example_list.htm>".
> Digging in this, one finds "http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_records_list..h=
tm <http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_records_list..htm>"
> which shows the record layout of each SMF record type.
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> You might also want to look at "http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_V=
S2/Release_3.7_1977/GC28-0754-0_OS_VS2_System_Programming_System_Management=
_Facility_Rel_3.7_Jul76.pdf <http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS2/Re=
lease_3.7_1977/GC28-0754-0_OS_VS2_System_Programming_System_Management_Faci=
lity_Rel_3.7_Jul76.pdf>"
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> Chris
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> --=20
> <cjar1950-/[email protected] <mailto:cjar1950-/[email protected]>>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:29:08 +0200
> "MG [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [H390-=
MVS]" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Thank you guys,
> > I=C2=92ll signed up on groups.io <http://groups.io/> <http://groups.io/=
<http://groups.io/>> to the MVS and Kicks groups a couple of seconds ago. =
Never really liked the yahoo brand but sad to see it fading away. And I=C2=
=92ll go dig deeper into Jay Moseley=C2=92s site. And yes=C2=85> connecting=
SMF with Splunk is=C2=85> very special I daresay. :-)=20
> > I used to be fairly good at doing stuff in perl decades ago, but got re=
cently dragged a bit into python, probably due to tinkering with the raspbe=
rries.=20
> >=20
> > Kind regards
> > Michael
> >=20
> > > Am 13.04.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Doug Wegscheid [email protected]=
t <mailto:[email protected]> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <m=
ailto:[email protected]>>:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > You probably want to be posting at groups.io <http://groups.io/> <htt=
p://groups.io/ <http://groups.io/>>; people are trying to get away from the=
yahoo groups.
> > >=20
> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> | Topics <https://grou=
ps.io/g/H390-MVS/topics <https://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topics>>
> > >=20
> > > -----
> > >=20
> > > the statistics end up getting saved in SMF files (SYS1.MANX and SYS1.=
MANY on my MVS 3.8J). AFAIK, TK3 (and TK4-?) are set up to accumulate the i=
nformation into a GDG, so you have some history, see procs DUMPSMF and CLEA=
RSMF). Jay Moseley details a good way to automate that whole thing, not sur=
e if it's the same or different as the TK3 method.
> > >=20
> > > The CBT tapes have some prior art for parsing and reporting on the co=
ntents of the SMF datasets, a lot of them seemed to rely on SAS, I've seen =
one (I haven't tried it yet) on the SPLA that used FORTRAN. Jay has a page =
on all this, and has some specific recommendations: http://www.jaymoseley.c=
om/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu=
29_exit/iefu29.htm><http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.h=
tm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm>>. I hadn't n=
oticed Jay's references to specific programs in the CBT tapes, and will tak=
e a look at them tonight.
> > >=20
> > > I did a little work on decoding the files in PL/I(F) to generate name=
=3Dvalue output that I could run into Splunk.
> > >=20
> > > Unloading the files to the host PC and processing with a Perl or Pyth=
on script is pretty doable, but I think that's considered cheating.
> > >=20
> > > --
> > >=20
> > > Also, more flowerboxes: http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/i=
efactrt.htm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm><http=
://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm <http://www.jaymoseley=
..com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm>>
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > On Monday, April 13, 2020, 3:26:53 PM EDT, Joe Monk [email protected]=
om <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:joemonk=
[email protected]>> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <mailto:h390-mvs@yahoog=
roups.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:h390-mvs-hHKSG33Tihh9OS/[email protected]=
m>>> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20=20
> > >=20
> > > What you want is an IEFACTRT exit (aka a 'flower box") .... a good on=
e can be found here:
> > >=20
> > > http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html <http://planetmvs.com/flowe=
rbox/index.html> <http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html <http://planetm=
vs.com/flowerbox/index.html>>
> > >=20
> > > Joe
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:56 PM MG [email protected] <mailto=
:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:mac=
[email protected]>> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <mailto:H390=
[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:H390-MVS@yah=
oogroups.com>>> wrote:
> > >=20=20
> > > Good evening, dear group!
> > >=20
> > > Back then in the olden days when I was young, our data center enforce=
d the use of accounting numbers in JOB statements to account resources used=
.. As account numbers also work fine in TK-4, in a next step, I=C2=92d love =
to evaluate job runs and total resources used by account number. So far, I=
=C2=92ve discovered SMF would be the right source of information. Is there =
a pointer to the record format of the SMF recordings used by MVS 3.8j? Woul=
d a Cobol program be appropriate? It=C2=92s probably a bit daring for someb=
ody who still considers himself a newbie on TK4-/MVS 3.8j trying this. I wa=
s searching the net and the usual resources but to no avail, except for som=
e info provided by IBM, but that=C2=92s addressing z/OS I suppose.
> > >=20
> > > Kind regards
> > > Michael
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
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<p>Hi Chris,<div class>Many thanks, I think this is very helpful.&nbs=
p;</div><div class><br class></div><div class>Cheers,</div><div class>Micha=
el<br class>
<div><br class><blockquote type=3D"cite" class><div class>Am 13.04.2020 um =
23:22 schrieb <a href=3D"mailto:cjar1950-/[email protected]" class>cjar1950-/[email protected]=
m</a> [H390-MVS] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class>H390=
[email protected]</a>>:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">=
<div class><div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"font-size: 13px;font-family: Ari=
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;white-space: normal;word-spacing: 0px;" class><div id=3D"ygrp-msg" class><=
div id=3D"ygrp-text" style=3D"font-family: Georgia;" class><p style=3D"marg=
in: 0px 0px 1em;" class>Michael,<br class><br class>If it helps, Wikipedia =
"IBM System Management Facilities" has a<br class>reference "Examples of SM=
F Reports -<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_example_list.htm" style=3D"font-family: Verdana=
;" class>http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_example_list.htm</a>".<br class>Digg=
ing in this, one finds "<a href=3D"http://www.pacsys.com/smf/smf_records_li=
st..htm" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>http://www.pacsys.com/smf/sm=
f_records_list..htm</a>"<br class>which shows the record layout of each SMF=
record type.<br class><br class>You might also want to look at "<a href=3D=
"http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS2/Release_3.7_1977/GC28-0754-0_O=
S_VS2_System_Programming_System_Management_Facility_Rel_3.7_Jul76.pdf" styl=
e=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_V=
S2/Release_3.7_1977/GC28-0754-0_OS_VS2_System_Programming_System_Management=
_Facility_Rel_3.7_Jul76.pdf</a>"<br class><br class>Chris<br class><br clas=
s>--<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class><<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:cjar1950-/[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>cjar1=
950-/[email protected]</a>><br class><br class>----------------------------------=
------------------------<br class>On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:29:08 +0200<br=
class>"MG<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>macba=
[email protected]</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span=
>[H390-MVS]" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"font-=
family: Verdana;" class>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br class>&g=
t; Thank you guys,<br class>> I=C2=92ll signed up on<span class=3D"Apple=
-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://groups.io/" style=3D"font-=
family: Verdana;" class>groups.io</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
</span><<a href=3D"http://groups.io/" style=3D"font-family: Verdan=
a;" class>http://groups.io/</a>> to the MVS and Kicks groups a couple of=
seconds ago. Never really liked the yahoo brand but sad to see it fading a=
way. And I=C2=92ll go dig deeper into Jay Moseley=C2=92s site. And yes=C2=
=85connecting SMF with Splunk is=C2=85very special I daresay. :-)<span clas=
s=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> I used to be fairly=
good at doing stuff in perl decades ago, but got recently dragged a bit in=
to python, probably due to tinkering with the raspberries.<span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space"> </span><br class>><span class=3D"Apple-conver=
ted-space"> </span><br class>> Kind regards<br class>> Michael<b=
r class>><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>&g=
t; > Am 13.04.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Doug Wegscheid<span class=3D"Apple-c=
onverted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" st=
yle=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>[email protected]</a><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[H390-MVS] <<a href=3D"mailto:H3=
[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>H390-MVS@yaho=
ogroups.com</a>>:<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space=
"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span><br class>> > You probably want to be posting at<span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://groups.io/" style=
=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>groups.io</a><span class=3D"Apple-converte=
d-space"> </span><<a href=3D"http://groups.io/" style=3D"font-famil=
y: Verdana;" class>http://groups.io/</a>>; people are trying to get away=
from the yahoo groups.<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-sp=
ace"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Ve=
rdana;" class>[email protected]</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&=
nbsp;</span>| Topics <<a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topics" st=
yle=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>https://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topics</a>=
><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><=
br class>> > -----<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-s=
pace"> </span><br class>> > the statistics end up getting saved =
in SMF files (SYS1.MANX and SYS1.MANY on my MVS 3.8J). AFAIK, TK3 (and TK4-=
?) are set up to accumulate the information into a GDG, so you have some hi=
story, see procs DUMPSMF and CLEARSMF). Jay Moseley details a good way to a=
utomate that whole thing, not sure if it's the same or different as the TK3=
method.<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </sp=
an><br class>> > The CBT tapes have some prior art for parsing and re=
porting on the contents of the SMF datasets, a lot of them seemed to rely o=
n SAS, I've seen one (I haven't tried it yet) on the SPLA that used FORTRAN=
.. Jay has a page on all this, and has some specific recommendations:<span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://www.jaymosele=
y.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" clas=
s>http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm</a><<a href=
=3D"http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm" style=3D"fon=
t-family: Verdana;" class>http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/ie=
fu29.htm</a>>. I hadn't noticed Jay's references to specific programs in=
the CBT tapes, and will take a look at them tonight.<br class>> ><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> > I did a=
little work on decoding the files in PL/I(F) to generate name=3Dvalue outp=
ut that I could run into Splunk.<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space"> </span><br class>> > Unloading the files to the h=
ost PC and processing with a Perl or Python script is pretty doable, but I =
think that's considered cheating.<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space"> </span><br class>> > --<br class>> ><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> > Also, more=
flowerboxes:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"=
http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm" style=3D"font-fam=
ily: Verdana;" class>http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.h=
tm</a><<a href=3D"http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.h=
tm" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercule=
s/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm</a>><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-conv=
erted-space"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted=
-space"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spac=
e"> </span><br class>> > On Monday, April 13, 2020, 3:26:53 PM E=
DT, Joe Monk<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>joemonk64@=
gmail.com</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>mailt=
o:[email protected]</a>> [H390-MVS] <<a href=3D"mailto:h390-mvs@yah=
oogroups.com" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>h390-mvs-hHKSG33Tihh9OS/[email protected]=
m</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>mailto:h=
[email protected]</a>>> wrote:<br class>> ><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Appl=
e-converted-space"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space"> </span><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </sp=
an><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b=
r class>> > What you want is an IEFACTRT exit (aka a 'flower box") ..=
... a good one can be found here:<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converte=
d-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html"=
style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index=
..html</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href=3D"=
http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" =
class>http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html</a>><br class>> ><=
span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> > Joe<b=
r class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br cla=
ss>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>&g=
t; > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:56 PM MG<span class=3D"Apple-converted-sp=
ace"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"fo=
nt-family: Verdana;" class>[email protected]</a><span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space"> </span><<a href=3D"mailto:macbaer@autoreleasep=
ool.de" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>mailto:macbaer@autoreleasepoo=
l.de</a>> [H390-MVS] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" sty=
le=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>[email protected]</a><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href=3D"mailto:H390-MVS@yaho=
ogroups.com" style=3D"font-family: Verdana;" class>mailto:H390-MVS@yahoogro=
ups.com</a>>> wrote:<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted=
-space"> </span><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br=
class>> > Good evening, dear group!<br class>> ><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> > Back then in the o=
lden days when I was young, our data center enforced the use of accounting =
numbers in JOB statements to account resources used. As account numbers als=
o work fine in TK-4, in a next step, I=C2=92d love to evaluate job runs and=
total resources used by account number. So far, I=C2=92ve discovered SMF w=
ould be the right source of information. Is there a pointer to the record f=
ormat of the SMF recordings used by MVS 3.8j? Would a Cobol program be appr=
opriate? It=C2=92s probably a bit daring for somebody who still considers h=
imself a newbie on TK4-/MVS 3.8j trying this. I was searching the net and t=
he usual resources but to no avail, except for some info provided by IBM, b=
ut that=C2=92s addressing z/OS I suppose.<br class>> ><span class=3D"=
Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>> > Kind regards<br cla=
ss>> > Michael<br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space=
"> </span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb=
sp;</span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </=
span><br class>> ><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>=
<br class>><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class>=
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