Re: SMF and TK-4

"cjar1950-/[email protected] [H390-MVS]" <[email protected]> Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:52:01 +0100
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Michael,

You might also find Moshix's video "Working with SMF on MVS 3.8 TK4,
part II - M84" usefull

Chris
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:29:08 +0200
"MG [email protected] [H390-MVS]" <[email protected]> wrote=
:
> Thank you guys,
> I=92ll signed up on groups.io <http://groups.io/> to the MVS and Kicks gr=
oups a couple of seconds ago. Never really liked the yahoo brand but sad to=
 see it fading away. And I=92ll go dig deeper into Jay Moseley=92s site. An=
d yes=85connecting SMF with Splunk is=85very special I daresay. :-)=20
> I used to be fairly good at doing stuff in perl decades ago, but got rece=
ntly dragged a bit into python, probably due to tinkering with the raspberr=
ies.=20
>=20
> Kind regards
> Michael
>=20
> > Am 13.04.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Doug Wegscheid [email protected] =
[H390-MVS] <[email protected]>:
> >=20
> >=20
> > You probably want to be posting at groups.io <http://groups.io/>; peopl=
e are trying to get away from the yahoo groups.
> >=20
> > [email protected] | Topics <https://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topics>
> >=20
> > -----
> >=20
> > the statistics end up getting saved in SMF files (SYS1.MANX and SYS1.MA=
NY on my MVS 3.8J). AFAIK, TK3 (and TK4-?) are set up to accumulate the inf=
ormation into a GDG, so you have some history, see procs DUMPSMF and CLEARS=
MF). Jay Moseley details a good way to automate that whole thing, not sure =
if it's the same or different as the TK3 method.
> >=20
> > The CBT tapes have some prior art for parsing and reporting on the cont=
ents of the SMF datasets, a lot of them seemed to rely on SAS, I've seen on=
e (I haven't tried it yet) on the SPLA that used FORTRAN. Jay has a page on=
 all this, and has some specific recommendations: http://www.jaymoseley.com=
/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29=
_exit/iefu29.htm>. I hadn't noticed Jay's references to specific programs i=
n the CBT tapes, and will take a look at them tonight.
> >=20
> > I did a little work on decoding the files in PL/I(F) to generate name=
=3Dvalue output that I could run into Splunk.
> >=20
> > Unloading the files to the host PC and processing with a Perl or Python=
 script is pretty doable, but I think that's considered cheating.
> >=20
> > --
> >=20
> > Also, more flowerboxes: http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/ief=
actrt.htm <http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.htm>
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Monday, April 13, 2020, 3:26:53 PM EDT, Joe Monk [email protected]=
 <mailto:[email protected]> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <mailto:=
[email protected]>> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20=20
> >=20
> > What you want is an IEFACTRT exit (aka a 'flower box") ... a good one c=
an be found here:
> >=20
> > http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html <http://planetmvs.com/flowerb=
ox/index.html>
> >=20
> > Joe
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:56 PM MG [email protected] <mailto:m=
[email protected]> [H390-MVS] <[email protected] <mailto:H39=
[email protected]>> wrote:
> >=20=20
> > Good evening, dear group!
> >=20
> > Back then in the olden days when I was young, our data center enforced =
the use of accounting numbers in JOB statements to account resources used. =
As account numbers also work fine in TK-4, in a next step, I=92d love to ev=
aluate job runs and total resources used by account number. So far, I=92ve =
discovered SMF would be the right source of information. Is there a pointer=
 to the record format of the SMF recordings used by MVS 3.8j? Would a Cobol=
 program be appropriate? It=92s probably a bit daring for somebody who stil=
l considers himself a newbie on TK4-/MVS 3.8j trying this. I was searching =
the net and the usual resources but to no avail, except for some info provi=
ded by IBM, but that=92s addressing z/OS I suppose.
> >=20
> > Kind regards
> > Michael
> >=20
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      <p>Michael,<br>
<br>
You might also find Moshix&#39;s video &quot;Working with SMF on MVS 3.8 TK=
4,<br>
part II - M84&quot; usefull<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
-- <br>
 &lt;cjar1950-/[email protected]&gt;<br>
<br>
----------------------------------------------------------<br>
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:29:08 &#43;0200<br>
&quot;MG [email protected] [H390-MVS]&quot; &lt;H390-MVS@yahoogrou=
ps.com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Thank you guys,<br>
&gt; I=92ll signed up on groups.io &lt;http://groups.io/&gt; to the MVS and=
 Kicks groups a couple of seconds ago. Never really liked the yahoo brand b=
ut sad to see it fading away. And I=92ll go dig deeper into Jay Moseley=92s=
 site. And yes=85connecting SMF with Splunk is=85very special I daresay. :-=
) <br>
&gt; I used to be fairly good at doing stuff in perl decades ago, but got r=
ecently dragged a bit into python, probably due to tinkering with the raspb=
erries. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Kind regards<br>
&gt; Michael<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Am 13.04.2020 um 22:11 schrieb Doug Wegscheid dwegscheid@sbcgloba=
l.net [H390-MVS] &lt;[email protected]&gt;:<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; You probably want to be posting at groups.io &lt;http://groups.io=
/&gt;; people are trying to get away from the yahoo groups.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; [email protected] | Topics &lt;https://groups.io/g/H390-MVS/topi=
cs&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; -----<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; the statistics end up getting saved in SMF files (SYS1.MANX and S=
YS1.MANY on my MVS 3.8J). AFAIK, TK3 (and TK4-?) are set up to accumulate t=
he information into a GDG, so you have some history, see procs DUMPSMF and =
CLEARSMF). Jay Moseley details a good way to automate that whole thing, not=
 sure if it&#39;s the same or different as the TK3 method.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; The CBT tapes have some prior art for parsing and reporting on th=
e contents of the SMF datasets, a lot of them seemed to rely on SAS, I&#39;=
ve seen one (I haven&#39;t tried it yet) on the SPLA that used FORTRAN. Jay=
 has a page on all this, and has some specific recommendations: http://www.=
jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm &lt;http://www.jaymoseley.co=
m/hercules/iefu29_exit/iefu29.htm&gt;. I hadn&#39;t noticed Jay&#39;s refer=
ences to specific programs in the CBT tapes, and will take a look at them t=
onight.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; I did a little work on decoding the files in PL/I(F) to generate =
name=3Dvalue output that I could run into Splunk.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Unloading the files to the host PC and processing with a Perl or =
Python script is pretty doable, but I think that&#39;s considered cheating.=
<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Also, more flowerboxes: http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefact=
rt/iefactrt.htm &lt;http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/iefactrt/iefactrt.ht=
m&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Monday, April 13, 2020, 3:26:53 PM EDT, Joe Monk joemonk64@gma=
il.com &lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt; [H390-MVS] &lt;h390-mvs@yahoogrou=
ps.com &lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;  <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; What you want is an IEFACTRT exit (aka a &#39;flower box&quot;) .=
... a good one can be found here:<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; http://planetmvs.com/flowerbox/index.html &lt;http://planetmvs.co=
m/flowerbox/index.html&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Joe<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:56 PM MG [email protected] &lt=
;mailto:[email protected]&gt; [H390-MVS] &lt;H390-MVS@yahoogroups.=
com &lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;  <br>
&gt; &gt; Good evening, dear group!<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Back then in the olden days when I was young, our data center enf=
orced the use of accounting numbers in JOB statements to account resources =
used. As account numbers also work fine in TK-4, in a next step, I=92d love=
 to evaluate job runs and total resources used by account number. So far, I=
=92ve discovered SMF would be the right source of information. Is there a p=
ointer to the record format of the SMF recordings used by MVS 3.8j? Would a=
 Cobol program be appropriate? It=92s probably a bit daring for somebody wh=
o still considers himself a newbie on TK4-/MVS 3.8j trying this. I was sear=
ching the net and the usual resources but to no avail, except for some info=
 provided by IBM, but that=92s addressing z/OS I suppose.<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Kind regards<br>
&gt; &gt; Michael<br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
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