RE: Re: Full screen application Specs

The snapshot build is newer than the production release -
 
Pretty sure that that has nothing to do with this problem - This is more
VM/CP related
 
But if IVAN wake up to answer us - pretty sure he will tell us if he made
any changes there recently
 
Roc


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Mike Stramba
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 20:13 
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [H390-VM] Re: Full screen application Specs


  

Roc,

Are you still using that old Hercules "snapshot" build?

Might /might not be the problem.

I think you should be using the current production release.

Mike

On 8/1/10, Rocky <[email protected] <mailto:rocsystems%40gmail.com> >
wrote:
> Ivan - Dave - if you saee this - pls give an opinion - Problem down below
>
> Paul in reply to your Email- NO REST FOR THE WEARY
>
> Today is Sunday and I am adopting your day of Rest - I need it:-)
> Used my day of rest up yesterday. :-)
>
> Here is an update ------
>
> ALL
>
> I made the fixes you guys pointed out and the site is now up with the
newer
> version.
>
> That was one big BUG - The line 18 - also fixed the 5th position in the
> action field
>
> More important I am trying to figure out why the treminals are getting
> stuck.
>
> I have a theory and I am waiting for IVAN or DAVE to tell me why it's
> wrong.Or maybe I got it right this time.
>
> If a user gets discoonncted for some reason - unrelated to the application
-
> or if he just leaves the application in the middle by closing his emulator
-
> What I expect to happen, is that Hercules will somehow notify CP and CP
will
> reset the graf and the graf at least will get the VM LOGON -
>
> The appication should also get an interrupt of some kind - Not exactly
sure
> - IVAN ???? any ideas what I should expect to see in the CSW
>
> Depending on where we are in the application - Right now If I am in a wait
> state on the device, and I get an interrupt - in most cases, I probably
> treat it as an attention interrupt.
>
> So I go do a read which will eventually fail and then either I am probably
> going back to wait or send a message that an invalid key was pressed.
>
> Need a better definition of how to handle and identify this interrupt if I
> am getting it.
>
> But from what we see is that the USERS are getting to hercules and no
> further-
>
> They get the hercules SCREEN - which means that Hercules accepted them,
but
> they can't get to VM because VM still thinks the graf that hercules is
> choosing is DIALED to the application.
>
> So three questions here.
>
> 1) why is VM not resetting the graph?
> 2) what is the exact flavor of the CSW when this interrupt occurrs.
> 3) Should Hercules move on to the next device in the pool if no response
> from this one.
>
> I am pretty sure that modern ZOS systems loop thru the terminals in the
> TCPIP pool, even if a session was completed successfully -
>
> You dont keep getting the same terminal but you usually get the next one
in
> the pool.
>
> Meanwhile I added an inactivity timer to the program - Made it short 15
> minutes on the EDIT screens and 20 on the BROWSE
> (If you don't press something it will throw you out - No warning)
>
> On the FLIST 10 minutes and the other small screens at the beginning I
think
> only 5,
>
> So hopefully - if it works = It will do the reset to the graf from the
> application. and after that Hercules should be able to find VM again -
> That's ok for now but we need a another solution that is not a work-around
> but that analyzes the CSW if thats possible.
>
> All of the above is theory - Not prooven fact yet.
>
> I am pretty sure the application is running- because I configured my
> emulator to use the LUNAME option and went to a diffeernt graf - not the
> first one but a specific one at the end of list and all worked while the
> first prt was stuck on the Hercules screen
>
> Grafs 0C0-0CF are defined - so if anybody gets stuck on the Hercules
screen
> I'd appreciate if you could try one the higher numbers and see if that
> works, and of course let us know what happens.
>
> Probably need some INPUT from IVAN here.
>
> As far as the application is concerned I have decided that if there are no
> drastic changes or bugs I am ready to go to the BETA stage -
>
> For me that means writing output to the disk.
>
> Please - everybody try playing around with it - and BUGS or ERRORS are
> appreiciated - Other suggestions also.
>
> Significant things that are missing that I can think of are:
>
> CHANGE COMMAND
> FIND as opposed to SEARCH which we have.
> HEX
>
> (And some highlighting and cursor field settings for certain screens) -
all
> comments are welcome.
>
> I'll wait a few days and if nothing big comes up I'll add the write.
> That will be the BETA
>
> I quess we can accept some LIMITATIONS in the functionality that we can
fix
> in the future as long as it does not crash and destroy anything.
>
> We can live with LIMITATIONS, but not ERRORS
>
> As usual - advice and suggestions are appreciated - If you don't know how
to
> get in just ask
>
> If anybody wants the current AWS tape with the applicatin I can send it -
> Rather not send sources yet unless you want them for developing something
> else or just to look -
>
> They are also on the server as well and you can look at them there with
the
> full screen browse or editior -
>
> Suggest that for deep understanding that you look at the listings because
> most of the good stuff is in MACROS which don't show up in the code but
are
> genned in the listing.
>
> ( Logic of the app is being changed dynamically and I don't want to answer
> questions about yesterdays application LOGIC).
>
> But the IO and tasking Routines are pretty stable
>
> If you want the tape you can install it locally and have fun or try
looking
> at the listings
>
> Source will be out on the publc site in the future -
>
>
> Roc
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"paoloG" <crc@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Rocky" <rocsystems@> wrote:
>> >
>> > thanks for the kudos
>> >
>> > Well the sabbath is a day of rest so I only worked 3 hiours today ---
>>
>> Rocky,
>>
>> Sabbath should be nearly finished...If you can see at least three stars
in
>> the sky you can go back to your programming job :-)
>>
>> On the contrary soon I'll start our rest day (in Italian 'Domenica' that
>> means more or less : 'Our Lord's Day'..;-)
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Paul
>>
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