RE: Re: Fullscreen application Specs

I agree with everything you say. Keep programming. And APL, the cpu hog.

--- On Wed, 8/4/10, Rocky <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Rocky <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [H390-VM] Re: Fullscreen application Specs
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 12:23 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      


Well I have to agree with you in part at 
least.
Assembler Programmers - a "Dying breed" - 
Yes
"C" programmers = Dime a Dozen - Yes  (90 percent are 
worth about as much) Excluding present company and the other 
10%
 
On the other Hand - 
well debugged assembler programs (from exprience ) work 
forever.
 
I enoyed writing "C" - The 3270 Emulator I use was 
written in part by me in "C"
And I have a previous 3270 emulator that worked on 
a DOS platform that was completey written by me in "C" 
6.
The way I wrote "C" it was almost assembler in any 
case.
 
Modern Object Oriented CODE - Personally I don't like. 
But it great for all the housepainters.
I 'd consider myself more of a PCASSO of 
programing than a housepainter.
 
Like I said beforel - it's a matter of having your 
own "tool box" of routines etc. and enough memory left to remember what they 
do.
 
Of course I am not writing all this code from scratch - 

My toolbox has 40 years worth of routines and I am just 
cutting and pasting to get them in the right order. (AND TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT 
THEY ALL DO).
 
I'm pretty sure that most old timers work the same way 
-
If they don't have 
a tool box then they are not really 
pros.
Big difference between 1 year of experience 
twenty or thirty times and thirty years of 
experience.
 
I have seen "C" programs that are more difficult to 
understand then well written assembler. (not this program - writing too fast for 
it to be well written -But eventually I will document it fully - It will be 
"art")
 
I remember the 
APL language.
 
We had a Joke 
" it takes an experienced APL programmer two weeks to 
understand a ONE line APL program written by an experienced APL 
programmer."
 
Bit of truth to that. 

Experienced Assembler programmers understand asembler 
programs written by Experienced Assembler 
programmers. 
 
But 
"C" is fine - I never wrote it on the MF so I am a little apprehensive. When I 
have a BUG in assembler I know its my BUG
A bug 
in "C" - I'm not sure.
 
Roc
 



  
  
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  kerravon86
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  H390-VM@yahoogroups .com
Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Fullscreen 
  application Specs


    
  
  --- In H390-VM@yahoogroups .com, "Rocky" 
  <rocsystems@. ..> wrote:
>
> There is a lot of app logic 
  involved here

And you're still not tempted to write any of
this in 
  C?

While you personally are clearly very productive
in assembler, 
  anyone else trying to debug a
problem or make minor improvements is going 
  to
give up before they even start.

I see all assembler code on a 
  dangerous road to
an orphanage. It's a dying art (a fact hidden
by the 
  unusual nature of participants in these
Herc groups), while C programmers 
  are 
permanently available at a dime a dozen.

BFN. 
  Paul.