RE: Re: Announcing the VM/370 and VM/380 "SixPack" version 1.2 release candidate 1!

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
kerravon86
Sent: 10 October 2010 23:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Announcing the VM/370 and VM/380 "SixPack" version
1.2 release candidate 1!

 

  

--- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dave"
<dave.g4ugm@...> wrote:
>

This was a discussion about protection for the author.

> I expect some already has been sued..

I don't. Sue a PD author for their software not
living up to some expectation?

> .. and as others have pointed out if you don't 
> explicitly release into the
> public domain it has an implicit copyright slapped on it in law.

Yes, I'm one of those "others".

> From what I can see the BSD licences are the nearest 
> thing to public domain
> you can get whilst still acknowledging authorship.

Yes, I don't dispute that. If the intention is
to get acknowledgment, then by all means, slap a
BSD copyright on.

I just dispute the bit that BSD copyright gives more 
"protection" from being sued, and that THAT is a 
reason to put a BSD copyright notice on.

If you just want to say that "I would add a disclaimer
to the PD code for protection", I wouldn't dispute
that. I don't do it personally because I don't
subscribe to the myth that PD authors get sued 5 times
every day for a free product and having been bitten
so many times, massive disclaimers are required.

But if you want to recommend to PD authors that PD
is fine, but you can get theoretical added protection
by adding a disclaimer, like the one found in the
BSD licence - without the copyright notice - I won't
argue on a theoretical like that.

BFN. Paul.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
> kerravon86
> Sent: 10 October 2010 22:42
> To: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Announcing the VM/370 and VM/380 "SixPack" version
> 1.2 release candidate 1!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dave"
> <dave.g4ugm@> wrote:
> >
> > It has some disclaimers that may help if some one 
> > says you gave them the
> > code for a purpose and then claim its not fit for the purpose.
> 
> I'd like to see the day someone attempts to claim
> that about public domain code.
> 
> Regardless, you can add disclaimers to your code
> without slapping the copyright on it.
> 
> BFN. Paul.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > kerravon86
> > Sent: 10 October 2010 12:41
> > To: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Announcing the VM/370 and VM/380 "SixPack"
version
> > 1.2 release candidate 1!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dave"
> > <dave.g4ugm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want to grant as many rights as possible, and 
> > > yet protect yourself a little then I suggest BSD.
> > 
> > Protect from what?
> > 
> > BSD just ensures that you get creditted at some
> > level for your work.
> > 
> > And then of course, if you don't think you got
> > creditted sufficiently, you are free to take the
> > user to court.
> > 
> > So to protect the user (ie developer) from the
> > fear of courts, I use public domain. Not possible
> > for me to take someone to court. I'm no longer
> > the owner. The public is.
> > 
> > I don't consider the job to be done until it's in
> > the public domain. So e.g. we'll eventually have
> > an unrestricted C compiler for MVS (GCC) in another 
> > 140 years or thereabouts, when the copyright expires.
> > 
> > PDPCLIB doesn't require the 140 year wait.
> > 
> > BFN. Paul.
> >
>