Re: Announcing the VM/370 and VM/380 "SixPack" version 1.2 release candidate 1!

Here are Blake's original words:

'With EVERY 3270 except "0010" commented out (see below), why would x3270  not connect to it and give me the "Hercules" Logo in precedence to IPLing 141?'

Reading his rather obscure sentences IMHO Blakes's operations are:

1).He starts Hercules
2).He tries to connect the emulator x3270 to Hercules; but he doesn't succeed (no Hercules Logo on x3270 screen)
3).He IPL VM; he sees no answer on x3270 screen (that's logic).

So the real problem is: Why Blake is unable to establish a TN3270 connection between his 3270 emulator and Hercules?

Kerravon said:

'Doing step 3 before step 2 apparently has the
effect of tying up that port so it can no longer
be used, but VM seems to accept a tn3270 connection
to another port' 

Tn3270 connections are accepted by Hercules, not by VM.
VM/370 doesn't know anything about TCP/IP and TN3270 protocol,
but 'thinks' to deal with 3270 terminals.


I tried the IPL sequence with no tn3270 session active
and of course with console 3215 statement commented out in config;
IPL went on without any msg (VM had no way to send messages);
then I fired TN3270 to address 010 and I saw VM/370 logo,
from which I could Logon MAINT virtual machine.

That's somehow peculiar because I expected a disabled wait
005 (no console available)... but in any way I couldn't
reproduce Blake's error.

Regards.

Paul

--- In [email protected], "kerravon86" <kerravon86@...> wrote:
>
> Reading between the lines, the required sequence is:
> 
> 1. Start Hercules.
> 2. Connect tn3270 emulator
> 3. IPL
> 
> and the x'10' address should be used.
> 
> Doing step 3 before step 2 apparently has the
> effect of tying up that port so it can no longer
> be used, but VM seems to accept a tn3270 connection
> to another port 
> 
> BFN.  Paul.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Joe Monk" <joe.monk@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hercules-390.org/hercconf.html#CNSLPORT
> > 
> > The Hercules config file has the following:
> > 
> > CNSLPORT   3270
> > 
> > So if you are trying to connect to the Hercules console prior to IPL, you
> > would need to open a tn3270 session to port 3270.
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > paoloG
> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:30 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [H390-VM] Re: Announcing the VM/370 and VM/380 "SixPack" version
> > 1.2 release candidate 1!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Blake,
> > 
> > Kevin gave you the correct answer; from a VM point of view there shouldn't
> > be any problem in IPLing VM SixPack using 0010 as the primary console.
> > 
> > You says:
> > 'With EVERY 3270 except "0010" commented out (see below), why would x3270
> > not connect to it and give me the "Hercules" Logo in precedence to IPLing
> > 141?'
> > 
> > If I interpret correctly your words, you are trying to connect x3270 to
> > Hercules and you don't get Hercules logo.
> > 
> > So the problem you have has nothing to do with VM/370, but only with
> > Hercules and x3270 (x3270 doesn't connect to Hercules).
> > 
> > So you should investigate on:
> > 
> > 1) Hercules (version - config file you're using)
> > 2) x3270
> > 
> > BTW I used the config suggested by 'the great Kevin' with Hercules 3.07 and
> > TN3270 VISTA: IPL worked perfectly!
> > 
> > BFN
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "bh_mayor" <stuart@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > > 
> > > "The great Kevin" seems not to be dispensing "great answers" at this
> > juncture, since making the amendment to the disclusion of the "mod4" option
> > seems to have rendered no improvement whatsoever, and the "sixpack"
> > continues to be persistently dysfunctional using his advise relative to an
> > x3270 console.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Blake
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "paoloG" <crc@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "bh_mayor" <stuart@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin, Bob:
> > > > > 
> > > > > With EVERY 3270 except "0010" commented out (see below), why would
> > x3270 not connect to it and give me the "Hercules" Logo in precedence to
> > IPLing 141?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Blake
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > # The Operator's Typewriter Console, accessed from the Hercules
> > window.
> > > > > #0009    3215-C  NOPROMPT       # used for Hercules "autoconsole"
> > > > > 0010    3270    MOD4            # added to get "regular" console
> > > > > 
> > > > > # Display Terminals... these are defined in DMKRIO as 3277s.
> > > > > #00C0.32 3270
> > > > > #01C8.7  3270    MOD2
> > > > > #02C8.7  3270
> > > > > #03C8.7  3270
> > > > > 
> > > > > # Display Terminals... these are defined in DMKRIO as 3278-4s.
> > > > > #01C0.7  3270    MOD4
> > > > > #02C0.7  3270
> > > > > #03C0.7  3270
> > > > > 
> > > > > # Typewriter Terminals
> > > > > #000A    1052    NOPROMPT
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Robert O'Hara" <rohara@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Kevin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I will add this information to the configuration file for the next
> > release.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Kevin Leonard" <hercules-list@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While it is interesting that it seems to use Hercules as the 
> > > > > > > > "default console", however, what amendments to the 
> > > > > > > > configuration file would be requisite in pursuance of using 
> > > > > > > > a regular 3270 as the console instead for the "SixPack"?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Remove the line:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 0009    3215-C  NOPROMPT
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and add the line:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 0010    3270
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > VM will then use 010 as the console.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Blake,
> > > > 
> > > > you didn't follow Kevin's precious suggestion; you wrote:
> > > > '0010    3270    MOD4' in your config file, and not
> > > > '0010    3270' as posted by the great Kevin.
> > > > 
> > > > When you try to connect your 3270 emulator to Hercules, if you don't
> > specify MOD4 as LU name your connection is rejected (by Hercules).
> > > > 
> > > > That has nothing to do with DMKRIO that has 0010 defined as 3277 model
> > 2.
> > > >  
> > > > You can even define your 3270 emulator screen size as model 4 and
> > connect to Hercules 0010; you VM/370 IPL will work anyhow.
> > > > 
> > > > BFN
> > > > 
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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