Re: DOS/VS or VM/370 under z/VM
Tony Harminc <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:09:21 -0500
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--HmsWOvNx9aTOcbyBtOqyEBmubwPRpH2MGNkhcdB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 22 November 2010 19:02, kerravon86 <kerravon86-/[email protected]> wrote: > Is it possible to run VM/370 under z/VM? In a word: no. > I know that DOS/VS runs under VM/370, so if VM/370 runs under z/VM, then that would provide a way to run DOS/VS. There are lots of cases where the tempting notion of using several levels of VM to support an old architecture on modern hardware might apply. Virtually none of them will work. > Even better if DOS/VS can run directly under z/VM. z/Arch machines are compatible back to S/360 at the problem state level, but not even close in supervisor state. z/VM offers a certain amount of virtual machine supervisor state compatibility with S/360, but it does not extent to DAT. Tony H. --HmsWOvNx9aTOcbyBtOqyEBmubwPRpH2MGNkhcdB Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>On 22 November 2010 19:02, kerravon86 <<a href="mailto:kerravon86%40yahoo.com.au">kerravon86-/[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > Is it possible to run VM/370 under z/VM?<br> <br> In a word: no.<br> <br> > I know that DOS/VS runs under VM/370, so if VM/370 runs under z/VM, then that would provide a way to run DOS/VS.<br> <br> There are lots of cases where the tempting notion of using several<br> levels of VM to support an old architecture on modern hardware might<br> apply. Virtually none of them will work.<br> <br> > Even better if DOS/VS can run directly under z/VM.<br> <br> z/Arch machines are compatible back to S/360 at the problem state<br> level, but not even close in supervisor state. z/VM offers a certain<br> amount of virtual machine supervisor state compatibility with S/360,<br> but it does not extent to DAT.<br> <br> Tony H.<br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BH390-VM%5D%20DOS%2FVS%20or%20VM%2F370%20under%20z%2FVM" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BH390-VM%5D%20DOS%2FVS%20or%20VM%2F370%20under%20z%2FVM"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwMzZwaGkzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBG1zZ0lkAzgzMzcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjkwNDcwOTYz?act=reply&messageNum=8337">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlY2Y4NnFnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI5MDQ3MDk2Mw--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/message/8336;_ylc=X3oDMTM0dTdxNmFqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBG1zZ0lkAzgzMzcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjkwNDcwOTYzBHRwY0lkAzgzMzY-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">2</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> <li style="border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; display: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class="cat"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmb2llYmhrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyOTA0NzA5NjM-?o=6" style="text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class="ct" style="color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM;_ylc=X3oDMTJldXRoODBrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTI5MDQ3MDk2Mw--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaHM5NDVuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMjkwNDcwOTYz" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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