Re: Re: using EDIT
Tony Harminc <[email protected]> Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:15:16 -0500
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--Lwrc7LxZ-61mDNBvPHoTGAIOlQDvVjiuJoUi8cj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 1 December 2010 04:47, millon louis <louis-gYGaU/[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to know if IOS3270 was a free of charge product with VM/SP 6 There is a long long thread on this topic from 2008. If you Google on IOS3270, you will see it near the top of the search results under "VM Fullscreen Support". To answer directly but briefly, no - IOS3270 was not shipped with any VM/370. It was always an add-on, chargeable program. Not a "Program Product", but a Field Developed Program (FDP) that was generally available only outside the USA. Conspiracy theories abound as to why it was not available in the USA; most of them involve ISPF. Some time in the last few years, once actual demand for IOS3270 had waned, Jim Elliott of IBM Canada made the run-time module available for free download. But the source code form the original package is not available. That run-time module will not work on the VM/370 we have, and there is a lot of work needed to make it work. In any case IBM's licence conditions for using the module make it unlikely that it would ever be incorporated into any Hercules-based offering. Tony H. --Lwrc7LxZ-61mDNBvPHoTGAIOlQDvVjiuJoUi8cj Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>On 1 December 2010 04:47, millon louis <<a href="mailto:louis%40xtsoft.com">louis-gYGaU/[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > I would like to know if IOS3270 was a free of charge product with VM/SP 6<br> <br> There is a long long thread on this topic from 2008. If you Google on<br> IOS3270, you will see it near the top of the search results under "VM<br> Fullscreen Support".<br> <br> To answer directly but briefly, no - IOS3270 was not shipped with any<br> VM/370. It was always an add-on, chargeable program. Not a "Program<br> Product", but a Field Developed Program (FDP) that was generally<br> available only outside the USA. Conspiracy theories abound as to why<br> it was not available in the USA; most of them involve ISPF.<br> <br> Some time in the last few years, once actual demand for IOS3270 had<br> waned, Jim Elliott of IBM Canada made the run-time module available<br> for free download. But the source code form the original package is<br> not available. That run-time module will not work on the VM/370 we<br> have, and there is a lot of work needed to make it work. In any case<br> IBM's licence conditions for using the module make it unlikely that it<br> would ever be incorporated into any Hercules-based offering.<br> <br> Tony H.<br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BH390-VM%5D%20Re%3A%20using%20EDIT" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5BH390-VM%5D%20Re%3A%20using%20EDIT"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwNzE4OXRiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBG1zZ0lkAzgzOTMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjkxMjIzNzI2?act=reply&messageNum=8393">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN3RhanQ1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI5MTIyMzcyNg--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/message/8360;_ylc=X3oDMTM0M2tmaGo1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBG1zZ0lkAzgzOTMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjkxMjIzNzI2BHRwY0lkAzgzNjA-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">25</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> <li style="border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; display: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class="cat"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmM2ZibXJ2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyOTEyMjM3MjY-?o=6" style="text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class="ct" style="color: #ff7900;">4</span> </li> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/H390-VM;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYnZrN2I4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTI5MTIyMzcyNg--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaDY2bDI1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1Mzk5MjcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDUzODAwBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMjkxMjIzNzI2" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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