Re: State of Turnkey
"halfmeg" <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:00:43 -0000
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> Kevin Leonard wrote:>
> Let us know about anything you encounter using JES3. Up to this
> point, we really haven't had an experienced JES3 person exercising
> the JES3 environment.
Yes, by all means post when you run across something post about it. My JES=
3 experience was totally in Operations not Systems.
> I've been filling that role by default; I'm a retired JES2 system
> programmer who got fascinated by JES3. Whatever is broken, I
> probably had something to do with us. When you find something that
> doesn't work, or have a suggestion on how we could do it better, let=20
> us know. Hercules is a learning experience for all of us.
> The Turnkey 4 beta effort has had its ups and downs, as people have
> real-life commitments that take priority over Hercules. In its more
> active moments, the TK4 project has made some progress with respect
> to JES3. The "Files" section of the TK4 beta forum:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-tk4-beta/
Hmmm, how do I put this. The BETA group forum is not open or accessible to=
non-members. Membership was on an invitation basis when it was formed.
> has quite a few JES3-related files. It's been so long, though,
> that I'm not absolutely sure of the current state of anything.
It has been a while and will take some time for those who participate in th=
e group to refresh themselves on items if need be. It may be a little long=
er still. The past 5+ years have been difficult for many of us. I started=
looking at SORT as a smaller project to get my brain back into thinking ab=
out mainframe stuff.
><snip>
> We did, I think, pretty much decide that the JES3 display console
> is supposed to be at 014. The existing TK3 system didn't have a
> UCB there, so we ended up borrowing one of the VTAM 3277 addresses.
> The TK3 update system I'm looking at does have 014; if yours does,
> you could move the JES3 console from 0C6 to 014.
=20
> Addresses for the MLOG printer and JES3 procedure "JES3OUT"
> printer have gotten moved around by non-JES3 requirements. I
> think I finally gave up trying to use the 30x range; in my personal
> JES3 system, I've moved MLOG to 31E and JES3OUT to 31F, but those
> assignments have never been implemented in the TK system and the
> TK3 update system I'm looking at doesn't have UCBs generated for
> those devices. Until that happens, 30F is probably going to have
> to do.
TK3 final edition or TK4 for adding the above ?
> If you set your JES3 display console to "*DELAY,0" and let the
> screen fill up, you may experience an abend200 in JES3 because
> the console services processor forgets to restore a register
> before trying to write the "DISPLAY HALTED" message. The fix
> is a usermod:
> http://www.j76.org/vs2/tiat803.zip
Believe I added this to TK3UPD.
=20
><snip>
Phil
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<p>> Kevin Leonard wrote:><br>
<br>
> Let us know about anything you encounter using JES3. Up to this<br>
> point, we really haven't had an experienced JES3 person exercising<br>
> the JES3 environment.<br>
<br>
Yes, by all means post when you run across something post about it. My JES3 experience was totally in Operations not Systems.<br>
<br>
> I've been filling that role by default; I'm a retired JES2 system<br>
> programmer who got fascinated by JES3. Whatever is broken, I<br>
> probably had something to do with us. When you find something that<br>
> doesn't work, or have a suggestion on how we could do it better, let <br>
> us know. Hercules is a learning experience for all of us.<br>
<br>
> The Turnkey 4 beta effort has had its ups and downs, as people have<br>
> real-life commitments that take priority over Hercules. In its more<br>
> active moments, the TK4 project has made some progress with respect<br>
> to JES3. The "Files" section of the TK4 beta forum:<br>
<br>
> <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-tk4-beta/">http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-tk4-beta/</a><br>
<br>
Hmmm, how do I put this. The BETA group forum is not open or accessible to non-members. Membership was on an invitation basis when it was formed.<br>
<br>
> has quite a few JES3-related files. It's been so long, though,<br>
> that I'm not absolutely sure of the current state of anything.<br>
<br>
It has been a while and will take some time for those who participate in the group to refresh themselves on items if need be. It may be a little longer still. The past 5+ years have been difficult for many of us. I started looking at SORT as a smaller project to get my brain back into thinking about mainframe stuff.<br>
<br>
><snip><br>
<br>
> We did, I think, pretty much decide that the JES3 display console<br>
> is supposed to be at 014. The existing TK3 system didn't have a<br>
> UCB there, so we ended up borrowing one of the VTAM 3277 addresses.<br>
> The TK3 update system I'm looking at does have 014; if yours does,<br>
> you could move the JES3 console from 0C6 to 014.<br>
<br>
> Addresses for the MLOG printer and JES3 procedure "JES3OUT"<br>
> printer have gotten moved around by non-JES3 requirements. I<br>
> think I finally gave up trying to use the 30x range; in my personal<br>
> JES3 system, I've moved MLOG to 31E and JES3OUT to 31F, but those<br>
> assignments have never been implemented in the TK system and the<br>
> TK3 update system I'm looking at doesn't have UCBs generated for<br>
> those devices. Until that happens, 30F is probably going to have<br>
> to do.<br>
<br>
TK3 final edition or TK4 for adding the above ?<br>
<br>
> If you set your JES3 display console to "*DELAY,0" and let the<br>
> screen fill up, you may experience an abend200 in JES3 because<br>
> the console services processor forgets to restore a register<br>
> before trying to write the "DISPLAY HALTED" message. The fix<br>
> is a usermod:<br>
<br>
> <a href="http://www.j76.org/vs2/tiat803.zip">http://www.j76.org/vs2/tiat803.zip</a><br>
<br>
Believe I added this to TK3UPD.<br>
<br>
><snip><br>
<br>
Phil<br>
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font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
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font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
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font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;
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font:115% monospace;
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}
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line-height: 1.22em;
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padding-bottom: 10px;
}
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color: #1E66AE;
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font-family: Verdana;
}
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color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
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color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
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font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
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