Re: State of Turnkey
"Kevin Leonard" <kl_j76-/[email protected]> Fri, 12 Nov 2010 03:28:37 -0000
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> Hmmm, how do I put this....
Sorry about that. I've been away so long I'm losing track of
basics. I apologize to anyone I've inadvertently misled. It
might be helpful to post some JES3 things in this group's "Files"
section. Except as you noted, an awful lot of what we've posted
tends to be in the range of three years old. Probably what I
*really* need to do is get back to work and post updated files
in places that everyone can get to them.
> > http://www.j76.org/vs2/tiat803.zip
>=20
> Believe I added this to TK3UPD.
Good. It looked to be missing from the version I've got, but
then, I have no idea how old the version I've got is. Like I
said, I'm losing track.
> > Addresses for the MLOG printer and JES3 procedure "JES3OUT"
> > printer have gotten moved around by non-JES3 requirements. I
> > think I finally gave up trying to use the 30x range; in my
> > personal JES3 system, I've moved MLOG to 31E and JES3OUT to
> > 31F, but those assignments have never been implemented in the
> > TK system and the TK3 update system I'm looking at doesn't
> > have UCBs generated for those devices. Until that happens,
> > 30F is probably going to have to do.
>=20
> TK3 final edition or TK4 for adding the above ?
If it's possible, I'd say both TK4 and TK3 final should probably
use the 31E/31F addresses (or something other than 30F, anyway).
30F is generated as an MCS output-only console, and appears to be
reserved for automount support. The TK3 stage 1 I'm looking at,
dated 2009/09/18, has a comment that "Console 30F is intended
for an Automount system and should only receive ROUTCDE=3D3 msgs".
Because 30F is an output-only MCS console, JES3 can share it, so
routing the MLOG there produces the undesirable result as shown by
DISPLAY CONSOLES:
CONSOLE/ALT COND AUTH ID AREA NBUF ROUTCD=20=20
30F/JES S NONE 08 3
If 30F is supposed to be dedicated to automount support, we don't
want JES3 messages going there.
That TK3 stage 1 also defines 014 and 016 (reserved for JES3 display
consoles) as MCS display consoles, which I think we already talked
about and decided we wouldn't do. The running TK3 update system
I've got doesn't have 014 and 016 defined as MCS consoles, so it's
quite possible you've already fixed that.
The JES3 initialization deck still has 0C6 as its display
console, but the MVS system has UCBs for 014 and 016, the two
displays we set aside for JES3 consoles. We need to fix
the JES3 initialization deck display console address to move
it to where we had intended it to be.
The initialization deck generally requires review; the one
I'm looking at in SYS1.PARMLIB(JES3IN00) has a comment date
of 2006/12/19. I'll work through that and let you know what
I come up with.
Both the stage 1 and the TK3 update system I'm running do not
include any dummy subsystem console UCMs defined with "TYPE=3DJES":
CONSOLE TYPE=3DJES,VALDCMD=3D(1,2,3)
which prevents MVS commands from being issued using the JES3
display console (an attempt to issue one gets the error message
"IAT7130 'cm' REJECTED, NO MAIN CONS SUPPORT"). There should be
at least two subsystem UCMs (one for each JES3 display console).
Three or four would be even better, in case someone gets really
excited about JES3 consoles.
Again, I'm not sure about the version of TK3UPD I have. Can I
download a current copy from somewhere so we're all shooting at
the same target?
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<p>> Hmmm, how do I put this....<br>
<br>
Sorry about that. I've been away so long I'm losing track of<br>
basics. I apologize to anyone I've inadvertently misled. It<br>
might be helpful to post some JES3 things in this group's "Files"<br>
section. Except as you noted, an awful lot of what we've posted<br>
tends to be in the range of three years old. Probably what I<br>
*really* need to do is get back to work and post updated files<br>
in places that everyone can get to them.<br>
<br>
> > <a href="http://www.j76.org/vs2/tiat803.zip">http://www.j76.org/vs2/tiat803.zip</a><br>
> <br>
> Believe I added this to TK3UPD.<br>
<br>
Good. It looked to be missing from the version I've got, but<br>
then, I have no idea how old the version I've got is. Like I<br>
said, I'm losing track.<br>
<br>
> > Addresses for the MLOG printer and JES3 procedure "JES3OUT"<br>
> > printer have gotten moved around by non-JES3 requirements. I<br>
> > think I finally gave up trying to use the 30x range; in my<br>
> > personal JES3 system, I've moved MLOG to 31E and JES3OUT to<br>
> > 31F, but those assignments have never been implemented in the<br>
> > TK system and the TK3 update system I'm looking at doesn't<br>
> > have UCBs generated for those devices. Until that happens,<br>
> > 30F is probably going to have to do.<br>
> <br>
> TK3 final edition or TK4 for adding the above ?<br>
<br>
If it's possible, I'd say both TK4 and TK3 final should probably<br>
use the 31E/31F addresses (or something other than 30F, anyway).<br>
30F is generated as an MCS output-only console, and appears to be<br>
reserved for automount support. The TK3 stage 1 I'm looking at,<br>
dated 2009/09/18, has a comment that "Console 30F is intended<br>
for an Automount system and should only receive ROUTCDE=3 msgs".<br>
Because 30F is an output-only MCS console, JES3 can share it, so<br>
routing the MLOG there produces the undesirable result as shown by<br>
DISPLAY CONSOLES:<br>
<br>
CONSOLE/ALT COND AUTH ID AREA NBUF ROUTCD <br>
30F/JES S NONE 08 3<br>
<br>
If 30F is supposed to be dedicated to automount support, we don't<br>
want JES3 messages going there.<br>
<br>
That TK3 stage 1 also defines 014 and 016 (reserved for JES3 display<br>
consoles) as MCS display consoles, which I think we already talked<br>
about and decided we wouldn't do. The running TK3 update system<br>
I've got doesn't have 014 and 016 defined as MCS consoles, so it's<br>
quite possible you've already fixed that.<br>
<br>
The JES3 initialization deck still has 0C6 as its display<br>
console, but the MVS system has UCBs for 014 and 016, the two<br>
displays we set aside for JES3 consoles. We need to fix<br>
the JES3 initialization deck display console address to move<br>
it to where we had intended it to be.<br>
<br>
The initialization deck generally requires review; the one<br>
I'm looking at in SYS1.PARMLIB(JES3IN00) has a comment date<br>
of 2006/12/19. I'll work through that and let you know what<br>
I come up with.<br>
<br>
Both the stage 1 and the TK3 update system I'm running do not<br>
include any dummy subsystem console UCMs defined with "TYPE=JES":<br>
<br>
CONSOLE TYPE=JES,VALDCMD=(1,2,3)<br>
<br>
which prevents MVS commands from being issued using the JES3<br>
display console (an attempt to issue one gets the error message<br>
"IAT7130 'cm' REJECTED, NO MAIN CONS SUPPORT"). There should be<br>
at least two subsystem UCMs (one for each JES3 display console).<br>
Three or four would be even better, in case someone gets really<br>
excited about JES3 consoles.<br>
<br>
Again, I'm not sure about the version of TK3UPD I have. Can I<br>
download a current copy from somewhere so we're all shooting at<br>
the same target?<br>
<br>
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