Re: Post-quantum defaults

Werner Koch via Gnupg-users <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Apr 2026 23:01:07 +0200
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.encryption.gpg.user
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2026 16:21, Andrew Gallagher said:
> I can never tell whether your recurring name-dropping of Niibe-san in
> these arguments is meant to credit him for his achievements, or use
> him as a scapegoat.

Gniibe is a long term friend of mine and I asked him to take over my
place in the design team to see whether he can have an eye on the
editing process and check that his SOS proposal and his experience with
ECC encodings makes it into the draft (where he only partly succeeded).

> I have not forgotten how you let him put his name to RFC9580 and then
> threw him under the bus by condemning the results of his work, after
> you had quit the design team in a huff because you could no longer
> work with the WG. It is none of my business whether you have ever

Andrew, please stop to rewrite history.  What you wrote is simply not
true.  You have not even been part of the design team.  I left the
design time due to our work to get OpenPGP deployed all over Germany's
and Europe's administrations and industries.  At that state only final
editing was due and no more semantics changes were planned.

Gniibe is a very humble man who would never provoke any anger.  I assume
this is the reason he did not asked to be removed for the authors list.
I actually asked to be removed from the authors and design team list
because that would really have given a false credibility to the outcome
of the WG.

> Please, for the love of all that is good and beautiful in the world,
> can we work together to implement algorithm 35 from
> draft-ietf-openpgp-pqc in GnuPG, so that we can at least have one

If that is code point for Kyber+ECC: The LibrePGP specification for this
has been in deployed in beta versions for a long time and is since
January part of the most widely used *PGP implementation, namely
Gpg4win.  For signatures I see no immediate need, thus better let the
algorithms settle 2 or 3 years before they get specified in *PGP.


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner


ps.
I guess I should not anymore take your bait and answer your mails.

-- 
The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that
refuse military service.             - A. Einstein

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