Re: OS X - Java Deprecated. Moneydance future?

If you did that, it would not be cross platform.   Apple has not
released the runtimes they use for their Windows apps, and I don't
think Gnustep can do all the OS X APIs.

Andy

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Vinicius Provenzano
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Is there any chance to have moneydance "ported" to Obj-C?
>
> Vinicius Provenzano
>
> On 23/10/2010, at 02:11, Andy Pastuszak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I expect Java to survive.  I just don't expect anyone to be using Oracle's
>> JVM 2 years from now.  The openJDK will have all patent encumbered code
>> removed, and much like LibreOffice, will move on from Oracle's control.
>> On Oct 22, 2010 11:50 PM, "Sean Reilly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I posted an entry on the Moneydance blog regarding Apple's announcement
>> regarding Java:
>>> http://moneydance.com/blog/archives/279
>>>
>>> It's hard to say what the future of Java on Mac might be, but Moneydance
>> does have a future (on the Mac and elsewhere) regardless. It would be nice
>> if Apple would be a bit more clear about Java on Lion and on the mac app
>> store. For example, they say that apps depending upon "deprecated
>> technologies" such as Java are not allowed on the app store, but if an app
>> is bundled with it's own JVM is it ok?
>>>
>>> I think a recent tweet from Tim Bray (of Google, formerly of Sun, inventor
>> of XML) is worth reading:
>>> "Unclench, everyone. There are millions of Java devs, all their tools are
>> in Java, they like Macs, one way or another it'll be there."
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Rick Floyd wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Most likely that company will be named "Oracle."
>>>>>
>>>> The justification that Apple (Jobs) is giving for deprecating Java on OS
>> X is that Apple's port is always behind and so it's better if it comes from
>> the vendor. Perhaps it will happen, although Oracle is showing itself pretty
>> resistant to doing any work that doesn't provide a direct revenue stream. In
>> any case, isn't there a better way to make this transition than deprecating
>> Java? I also wonder how much work Oracle can or will put into integrating
>> Java into OS X. I'd much rather have "integrated" than "current" at this
>> point in Java's lifecycle. Take a look at a Java app on Linux to see how bad
>> it can get without that integration.
>>>>
>>>> A more immediate effect of the deprecation comes from Apple's position
>> that applications based on deprecated interfaces (explicitly including Java)
>> will be banned from Apple's app store when it opens in a few months. That's
>> a pretty unfriendly thing to do to developers who have supported Apple for
>> so long.
>>>>
>>>> See:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/22/jobs_on_java_for_mac/
>>>>
>>>> for more speculation on where this might be going.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the original poster is right to be worried.
>>>>
>>>>
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