Re: OS X - Java Deprecated. Moneydance future?

Is there any chance to have moneydance "ported" to Obj-C?

Vinicius Provenzano 

On 23/10/2010, at 02:11, Andy Pastuszak <[email protected]> wrote:

> I expect Java to survive.  I just don't expect anyone to be using Oracle's
> JVM 2 years from now.  The openJDK will have all patent encumbered code
> removed, and much like LibreOffice, will move on from Oracle's control.
> On Oct 22, 2010 11:50 PM, "Sean Reilly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I posted an entry on the Moneydance blog regarding Apple's announcement
> regarding Java:
>> http://moneydance.com/blog/archives/279
>> 
>> It's hard to say what the future of Java on Mac might be, but Moneydance
> does have a future (on the Mac and elsewhere) regardless. It would be nice
> if Apple would be a bit more clear about Java on Lion and on the mac app
> store. For example, they say that apps depending upon "deprecated
> technologies" such as Java are not allowed on the app store, but if an app
> is bundled with it's own JVM is it ok?
>> 
>> I think a recent tweet from Tim Bray (of Google, formerly of Sun, inventor
> of XML) is worth reading:
>> "Unclench, everyone. There are millions of Java devs, all their tools are
> in Java, they like Macs, one way or another it'll be there."
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Rick Floyd wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Most likely that company will be named "Oracle."
>>>> 
>>> The justification that Apple (Jobs) is giving for deprecating Java on OS
> X is that Apple's port is always behind and so it's better if it comes from
> the vendor. Perhaps it will happen, although Oracle is showing itself pretty
> resistant to doing any work that doesn't provide a direct revenue stream. In
> any case, isn't there a better way to make this transition than deprecating
> Java? I also wonder how much work Oracle can or will put into integrating
> Java into OS X. I'd much rather have "integrated" than "current" at this
> point in Java's lifecycle. Take a look at a Java app on Linux to see how bad
> it can get without that integration.
>>> 
>>> A more immediate effect of the deprecation comes from Apple's position
> that applications based on deprecated interfaces (explicitly including Java)
> will be banned from Apple's app store when it opens in a few months. That's
> a pretty unfriendly thing to do to developers who have supported Apple for
> so long.
>>> 
>>> See:
>>> 
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/22/jobs_on_java_for_mac/
>>> 
>>> for more speculation on where this might be going.
>>> 
>>> I think that the original poster is right to be worried.
>>> 
>>> 
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