Re: OS X - Java Deprecated. Moneydance future?

I expect Java to survive.  I just don't expect anyone to be using Oracle's
JVM 2 years from now.  The openJDK will have all patent encumbered code
removed, and much like LibreOffice, will move on from Oracle's control.
On Oct 22, 2010 11:50 PM, "Sean Reilly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I posted an entry on the Moneydance blog regarding Apple's announcement
regarding Java:
> http://moneydance.com/blog/archives/279
>
> It's hard to say what the future of Java on Mac might be, but Moneydance
does have a future (on the Mac and elsewhere) regardless. It would be nice
if Apple would be a bit more clear about Java on Lion and on the mac app
store. For example, they say that apps depending upon "deprecated
technologies" such as Java are not allowed on the app store, but if an app
is bundled with it's own JVM is it ok?
>
> I think a recent tweet from Tim Bray (of Google, formerly of Sun, inventor
of XML) is worth reading:
> "Unclench, everyone. There are millions of Java devs, all their tools are
in Java, they like Macs, one way or another it'll be there."
>
> Cheers,
> Sean
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Rick Floyd wrote:
>
>>
>>> Most likely that company will be named "Oracle."
>>>
>> The justification that Apple (Jobs) is giving for deprecating Java on OS
X is that Apple's port is always behind and so it's better if it comes from
the vendor. Perhaps it will happen, although Oracle is showing itself pretty
resistant to doing any work that doesn't provide a direct revenue stream. In
any case, isn't there a better way to make this transition than deprecating
Java? I also wonder how much work Oracle can or will put into integrating
Java into OS X. I'd much rather have "integrated" than "current" at this
point in Java's lifecycle. Take a look at a Java app on Linux to see how bad
it can get without that integration.
>>
>> A more immediate effect of the deprecation comes from Apple's position
that applications based on deprecated interfaces (explicitly including Java)
will be banned from Apple's app store when it opens in a few months. That's
a pretty unfriendly thing to do to developers who have supported Apple for
so long.
>>
>> See:
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/22/jobs_on_java_for_mac/
>>
>> for more speculation on where this might be going.
>>
>> I think that the original poster is right to be worried.
>>
>>
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