Re: UI language

"Dwalin" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.fonts.fontforge.devel
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 Too lazy (and late) to sign up to github

the PO contains several changes, and comments where I was
uncertain. maybe some of the German "bad" translations are
in fact termini technici that I don't know of? After all I am
not a graphician or from the printing profession.

Cheers, Dwalin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Da Silva [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:06 AM
> To: Bug reports, feature requests,etc.
> Subject: Re: [Fontforge-devel] UI language
> 
> On November 24, 2013 12:46:54 PM Dwalin wrote:
> > Hi Alexandre,
> > 
> > ty, I so far received 3 answers to my request, and all recommend
> > to remove the .mo file(s). I will go for that one.
> 
> One additional edit you may want to do too is:
> fontforgeexe/uiutil.c:SupportedLocale() at approximately line 
> 226, change:
> 
> static char *supported[] = { "de","ja", NULL }; /* other html 
> lang list */
> 
> to
> 
> static char *supported[] = { "ja", NULL }; /* other html lang list */
> 
> this will prevent Fontforge from searching for the german 
> language html  
> documents, which as you note is quite dated as well.
> 
> 
> > I have very little spare time, however, I am willing to "donate" the
> > time to translate some lines per week. I am a native German speaker,
> > so translating into German language would be ok to me.
> 
> This is still better than nothing at all.
> You'll notice my contributions have waned to a trickle, and 
> some tasks such 
> as updating AUTHORS is an ongoing process (currently at about 
> ~2002 now), 
> but a small incremental step forward is better than no step at all.
> 
> If you understand how to use PO editors (like Alexandre 
> indicated), that's 
> great, it keeps everything tidy and correct. If you don't, 
> and don't have 
> time to learn, but still want to be productive, you can use a 
> plain-text 
> editor like Notepad (windows), gedit (GNOME), kwrite (KDE), 
> or whatever you 
> consider your favorite text editor - then do a swatch of 
> lines based on how 
> much you want to do at that time - and send that patch in.
> 
> Best place to send it in, is as a patch - if you understand 
> how to make 
> patches, and this allows any number of the FontForge 
> caretakers to easily 
> import the improvements since not all of them know coding well.
> https://github.com/fontforge/fontforge/pulls
> 
> If you don't know how to make a patch, and you just don't 
> have time to 
> learn, but still want to contribute a bit, then, my 
> suggestion is to simply 
> copy-n-paste a swatch of text improvements as an issue:
> https://github.com/fontforge/fontforge/issues
> 
> for example, the example you mention (below), I'd simply state...
> please add these improvements for "de.po" at approximately line 243:
> #: fontinfo.c:6561
> msgid "Name For Human_s:"
> msgstr "_Angezeigter Name für Benutzer:"
> 
> 
> ...and you should be able to get a fair number of edits done 
> this way, 
> without causing too much confusion to where the edits go. 
> It's more work 
> this way for us to insert or stich-in and we'd rather not 
> have it done this 
> way, but it's still better than zero progress.
> 
> I'm not sure what will happen here either, since the menu is 
> expecting _s 
> and you have _A instead.... I think a better choice here 
> would be to use a 
> word that has s in it so that you select the same menu "s" item.
> 
> > Example from FF:
> > Name for humans (mask Element/Font Info/General) in English
> > Vorzeigename (indicated name), Font Info -> 
> Schrift-Eigenschaften (=font
> > properties, the hyphen is grammatically false in German either!) in
> > German
> > 
> > This is poorer than poor ;-)
> 
> Perhaps, but it was done to the best of the author's 
> abilities, plus you'll 
> gain a fair bit of respect for the original author who did 
> the de.po when 
> you see huge size of the de.po file, and how much was done. 
> The FontForge 
> translators have done a great job with these huge files, and 
> there is a lot 
> of stuff in there that takes a *long* time to get completed 
> if you start 
> from the top and go through it a little at a time. You'll 
> understand what I 
> mean once you begin, and see how far you manage to get - so 
> don't lose hope 
> if you manage to move only a little bit ;-)
> 
> We all do, to the best of our abilities, and if you can help 
> where you can 
> help, that will be appreciated too.
> 
> > I would translate that into "Schriftinfo" (no hyphen) and into
> > "Anzeigename" (= name shown to humans) or even into 
> "Angezeigter Name
> > für Benutzer" = name indicated to users
> > 
> 
> Okay, based on the copyright of 2006, the de.po is fairly 
> "dated", so I've 
> updated the existing de.po to match today's program build. By 
> this, what I 
> mean is, that the program references have been updated 
> according to steps 
> sort of like what is shown here: 
> http://fontforge.org/uitranslationnotes.html
> 
> You'll notice I didn't change the copyright owner, since a 
> one line edit, 
> or for that matter, a 100 edits isn't much yet, but at some 
> point in time, 
> if you get a substantial number of edits to say....it's about time to 
> update the copyright notice...then it's probably time to edit it then.
> 
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