Re: AdvMAME Opens in Tiny Window

"Robinson, Eric" <eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]> Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:09 -0800
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I just picked up my TV and attached it to the component output of the
ATI Radeon 7500 card. The PC monitor is still attached to the VGA port.
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The Linux console appears on the PC monitor. The TV displays some
garbled video that I can sort of tell is the console screen. I know
because when I press the arrow keys, stuff moves on the TV screen, but
it is completely unreadable.
=20
Any ideas how I can make the Linux console appear on the TV correctly?
Then I can get rid of the PC monitor.
=20
Alternatively, if I can keep the console on the PC monitor (for
maintenance) but make the games appear on the TV, that could work too,
although it is definitely not my first choice.

I messed around with advcfg, but when I select "NTSC TV" it errors out
with the message, "Calibration mode unsupported. The video mode is
incompatibe with the monitor limitations."
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--
Eric Robinson
Director of Information Technology
Physician Select Management, LLC
775.885.2211 x 111

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________________________________

From: John W. Cocula [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:19 AM
To: Robinson, Eric
Cc: advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [advancemame-users] AdvMAME Opens in Tiny Window


I recall that getting the monitor timing right was tricky, but the end
results were worth the trial-and-error with the advcfg and advv
utilities.  I recall something about the vesafb driver not being capable
of the fine-grained control possible in card-specific fb drivers, for
what that's worth.  I used a multisync arcade monitor with much lower
resolutions than yours, but if you following the docs on setting up the
monitor settings, you are likely to have success.

John



On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Robinson, Eric <eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]>
wrote:


	I tried 'display_ror yes' but now the monitor says "sync out of
range." The monitor is a 19" CRT with a max resolution of 1600x1200. Any
ideas?
	=20

	--
	Eric Robinson
=09

	=20

________________________________

=09
	From: John W. Cocula [mailto:[email protected]]=20
=09
	Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:04 AM=20

	To: Robinson, Eric
	Cc: advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
	Subject: Re: [advancemame-users] AdvMAME Opens in Tiny Window
=09



	On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Robinson, Eric
<eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]> wrote:
=09

		I recompiled my kernel using the fb driver and
AdvanceMAME now rocks! Thanks for reminding me about this.


	Very happy to hear it!
	=20
=09

	=09
		One quick question: Do you know if there's a way to
rotate games 90 degrees so the vertical ones will look right on a PC
monitor turned on its side?=20


	Yes, indeed.  Put the line
=09
	display_ror yes
=09
	in your ~/.advance/advmame.rc file.  There is a goldmine of
options in the advmame.rc file!
=09
	John
=09
	=20

	=09
		=20

		--
		Eric Robinson
	=09

		=20

________________________________

		From: John W. Cocula [mailto:[email protected]]=20
		Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:21 AM=20

		To: Robinson, Eric
		Cc: advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
		Subject: Re: [advancemame-users] AdvMAME Opens in Tiny
Window
	=09

		Eric, I believe the big performance bottleneck that
you're seeing is that it's running in an X-based window and not using
the frame-buffer driver directly.  Try to build and run AdvMAME using
the fb driver, with X completely not running, and you will see
dramatically better video performance.  I'm afraid my detailed set of
tip and tricks is too distant in the past, but a few details of my
system are here: =20
	=09
		http://cocula/content/cocktail-table-arcade-machine
<http://cocu.la/content/cocktail-table-arcade-machine>=20
	=09
		John
	=09


			On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Robinson, Eric
			<eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]> wrote:
			> Newbie here!
			>
			> I was told that MAME works well on low-power
computers. I don't know
			if this applies to AdvMAME as well. I have Linux
(2.6.9.34) installed on
			an 800MHz Dell with 384MB RAM and an ATI Radeon
7500 card. When I start
			MAME, it opens in a tiny 2" window. If I try to
use AdvMAME's features
			to make the window bigger, the game's frame rate
slows down to a crawl.
			If I switch to "full screen mode" the game
(1943kai) gets bigger and
			runs at normal speed, but it still leaves about
1.5 inches of black
			screen at the top and bottom. Is there anything
I can do to make to
			games run full screen at normal speed aside from
buying a much faster
			computer?
			>
			> --Eric
		=09
		=09




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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I just picked up my TV and attached it to the =
component=20
output of the ATI Radeon 7500 card. The PC monitor is still attached to =
the VGA=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The Linux console appears on the PC monitor. =
The TV=20
displays some garbled video that I can sort of tell is the console =
screen. I=20
know because when I press the arrow keys, stuff moves on the TV screen, =
but it=20
is completely unreadable.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Any ideas how I can make the Linux console =
appear on the TV=20
correctly? Then I can get rid of the PC monitor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Alternatively, if I can keep the console on the =
PC monitor=20
(for maintenance) but make the games appear on the TV, that could work =
too,=20
although it is definitely not my first choice.<BR></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I messed around with advcfg, but when I select =
"NTSC TV" it=20
errors out with the message, "Calibration mode unsupported. The video =
mode is=20
incompatibe with the monitor limitations."</DIV></FONT></SPAN>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D145325823-03112008><FONT =
face=3DVerdana=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=3Dleft><SPAN=20
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face=3Dverdana>--<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT face=3Dverdana>Eric =

Robinson<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT =
face=3Dverdana>Director of=20
Information Technology<BR></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=3Dverdana><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Physician Select =
Management,=20
LLC<BR></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">775.885.2211 x=20
111</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> John W. Cocula =
[mailto:[email protected]]=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2008 10:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Robinson,=20
Eric<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
Re: [advancemame-users] AdvMAME Opens in Tiny =
Window<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I recall that getting the monitor timing right was tricky, =
but the=20
end results were worth the trial-and-error with the advcfg and advv=20
utilities.&nbsp; I recall something about the vesafb driver not being =
capable of=20
the fine-grained control possible in card-specific fb drivers, for what =
that's=20
worth.&nbsp; I used a multisync arcade monitor with much lower =
resolutions than=20
yours, but if you following the docs on setting up the monitor settings, =
you are=20
likely to have success.<BR><BR>John<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Robinson, Eric =
<SPAN=20
dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]">eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]</A>&gt;</=
SPAN>=20
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
  <DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I tried=20
  'display_ror yes' but now the monitor says "sync out of range." The =
monitor is=20
  a 19" CRT with a max resolution of 1600x1200. Any =
ideas?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=3Dleft><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT=20
  face=3Dverdana>--<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT =
face=3Dverdana>Eric=20
  Robinson<BR></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
  <DIV lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
  <HR>
  <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>
  <DIV class=3DIh2E3d><B>From:</B> John W. Cocula [mailto:<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D_blank>[email protected]</A>]=20
  <BR></DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2008 9:04 AM
  <DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DWj3C7c><BR><B>To:</B> Robinson, Eric<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"=20
  =
target=3D_blank>advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org</A><BR><B>Subject=
:</B>=20
  Re: [advancemame-users] AdvMAME Opens in Tiny=20
  Window<BR></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DWj3C7c>
  <DIV></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Robinson, =
Eric <SPAN=20
  dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]"=20
  target=3D_blank>eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I =
recompiled my kernel=20
    using the fb driver and AdvanceMAME now rocks! Thanks for reminding =
me about=20
    this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Very happy to hear it!<BR>&nbsp;<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
    <DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>One quick question: Do you know if there's a way to rotate =
games 90=20
    degrees so the vertical ones will look right on a PC monitor =
turned&nbsp;on=20
    its side?&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Yes, indeed.&nbsp; Put the line<BR><BR>display_ror =
yes<BR><BR>in your=20
  ~/.advance/advmame.rc file.&nbsp; There is a goldmine of options in =
the=20
  advmame.rc file!<BR><BR>John<BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
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    <DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana =
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    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN><FONT face=3DVerdana =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" align=3Dleft><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT=20
    face=3Dverdana>--<BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT =
face=3Dverdana>Eric=20
    Robinson<BR></FONT></SPAN></P>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
    <DIV lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
    <HR>
    <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> John W. Cocula [mailto:<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D_blank>[email protected]</A>] =

    <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 31, 2008 10:21 AM=20
    <DIV><BR><B>To:</B> Robinson, Eric<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"=20
    =
target=3D_blank>advancemame-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org</A><BR><B>Subject=
:</B>=20
    Re: [advancemame-users] AdvMAME Opens in Tiny=20
    Window<BR></DIV></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>Eric, I believe the big performance bottleneck that =
you're seeing=20
    is that it's running in an X-based window and not using the =
frame-buffer=20
    driver directly.&nbsp; Try to build and run AdvMAME using the fb =
driver,=20
    with X completely not running, and you will see dramatically better =
video=20
    performance.&nbsp; I'm afraid my detailed set of tip and tricks is =
too=20
    distant in the past, but a few details of my system are here:&nbsp;=20
    <BR><BR><A =
href=3D"http://cocu.la/content/cocktail-table-arcade-machine"=20
    =
target=3D_blank>http://cocula/content/cocktail-table-arcade-machine</A><B=
R><BR>John<BR></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">On=20
      Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Robinson, Eric<BR>&lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]"=20
      target=3D_blank>eric.robinson-JiDY2OCN/[email protected]</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; =
Newbie=20
      here!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I was told that MAME works well on low-power =

      computers. I don't know<BR>if this applies to AdvMAME as well. I =
have=20
      Linux (<A href=3D"http://2.6.9.34" target=3D_blank>2.6.9.34</A>) =
installed=20
      on<BR>an 800MHz Dell with 384MB RAM and an ATI Radeon 7500 card. =
When I=20
      start<BR>MAME, it opens in a tiny 2" window. If I try to use =
AdvMAME's=20
      features<BR>to make the window bigger, the game's frame rate slows =
down to=20
      a crawl.<BR>If I switch to "full screen mode" the game (1943kai) =
gets=20
      bigger and<BR>runs at normal speed, but it still leaves about 1.5 =
inches=20
      of black<BR>screen at the top and bottom. Is there anything I can =
do to=20
      make to<BR>games run full screen at normal speed aside from buying =
a much=20
      faster<BR>computer?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
    --Eric<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR><BR></DIV><FONT =
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