Re: find in tree: persons with no immigration event

All within the People Filters.

Filter 1: People with the person <event>, Event = "Birth", Place = "U.S.A."
(or however you have the USA entered"
Return values that do not match the filter rules checked

Filter 2: People with the person <event>, Event = "Immigration"
Return values that do not match the filter rules checked

Filter 3: People matching the <filter> Filter 1
People matching the <filter> Filter 2
Options: All rules must apply


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 5:04 PM [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dave and Brian, I can't get your methods to work.
>
> I have two filters. The event filter "no immigration" searches for people
> with an immigration event, and is set to return values which do not match.
> The person filter "foreigner" searches for people born in the US, and is
> also set to return values which do not match.
> I can easily make a filter which finds people with an immigration event
> AND born in the US. What I want is a filter where both rules are negative:
> People without the immigration event AND people not born in the USA.
>
> I consulted the page Brian sent, but I have the same problem. I tried his
> method of running the event filter "no immigration" and tagging all the
> results as "no immigration". Then I ran the people filter "foreigner" while
> filtering for the tag "no immigration". There are no results.
>
> In short, what I want is (NOT(immigration record) ) AND (NOT(born in
> USA)).
>
> -deborah
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:12 PM Dave Scheipers <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually my bad!!
>>
>> You can do the event filters from within People filters using "People
>> with the person <event>". You will need to have the two filters to get the
>> negative of Born in the U.S. and another Filter for the negative of
>> Immigration. The third filter finds the people that are true for both
>> filters.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 4:05 PM Dave Scheipers <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Event Filter 1: You want the negative of those people born in the U.S.
>>> So search for that criteria and then check the box to exclude those people.
>>> People not born in the U.S.
>>>
>>> Event Filter 2; You do the same for events with an immigration type and
>>> then take the negative. People with no immigration event.
>>>
>>> People Filter: The  filter that searches for people that are true for
>>> both event filters 1 & 2; both rules apply. People not born in the U.S. AND
>>> do not have an immigration event.
>>>
>>> Have not tested it but the logic is sound
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:14 PM Deborah Bennett <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, here is a related question. I want to find persons who were not
>>>> born in
>>>> the United States, and do not have an immigration event. Is there a way
>>>> to
>>>> apply two custom filters to a search?
>>>>
>>>> -deborah
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:44 AM Deborah Bennett <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Les’s solution was timely and works. Thanks Les for responding with a
>>>> step
>>>> > by step answer!
>>>> >
>>>> > You may wonder why I am looking at immigration in my tree. Ancestry
>>>> has
>>>> > free access to immigration records through midnight tonight. So I am
>>>> > searching for immigration records which are not on FamilySearch.
>>>> >
>>>> > -deborah
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:11 PM Les B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Deborah
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Try this:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Select People. On right hand side make sure there are no Tag or
>>>> Custom
>>>> >> Filters set.
>>>> >> Click to Create Custom Filter (the icon on the right of the Custom
>>>> Filter
>>>> >> box)
>>>> >> Give it Name ie No Immigration and any comment you want.
>>>> >> Click on the + button and select "People with the personal <event>"
>>>> from
>>>> >> the Event Filter list. Start adding Immigration in the "Personal
>>>> Event" box
>>>> >> on the right and select immigration.
>>>> >> Tick in the "Return Values that do not match the filter rules"
>>>> >> Click OK
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Then run the Filter and see if it works.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Les
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 4:50 PM
>>>> >> To: Gramps Users List <[email protected]>
>>>> >> Subject: [Gramps-users] find in tree: persons with no immigration
>>>> event
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This seems so simple, I don't know why I am having trouble . . .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have an established Family Tree in Gramps.
>>>> >> I want to find anyone in that tree who does not have an immigration
>>>> event.
>>>> >> I can find anyone with an immigration event by using the People list.
>>>> >> Filter for event->immigration and press the find button. Can I
>>>> filter for
>>>> >> the absence of an immigration event? Can I tag everyone with an
>>>> immigration
>>>> >> event, then search the list for anyone without that tag?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I feel like this is doable, but I feel dumb that I can't figure it
>>>> out!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -deborah
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