Re: find in tree: persons with no immigration event

Note that one of my filters is a people filter, and the other is an event filter. 

I want (Event->no immigration) AND (People->foreigner). 

So, rephrasing the question, is it possible to apply an event filter and a people filter together?

-deborah

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> On Mar 17, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Dave Scheipers <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> All within the People Filters.
> 
> Filter 1: People with the person <event>, Event = "Birth", Place = "U.S.A." (or however you have the USA entered"
> Return values that do not match the filter rules checked
> 
> Filter 2: People with the person <event>, Event = "Immigration"
> Return values that do not match the filter rules checked
> 
> Filter 3: People matching the <filter> Filter 1
> People matching the <filter> Filter 2
> Options: All rules must apply
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 5:04 PM [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Dave and Brian, I can't get your methods to work. 
>> 
>> I have two filters. The event filter "no immigration" searches for people with an immigration event, and is set to return values which do not match.
>> The person filter "foreigner" searches for people born in the US, and is also set to return values which do not match.
>> I can easily make a filter which finds people with an immigration event AND born in the US. What I want is a filter where both rules are negative: People without the immigration event AND people not born in the USA.
>> 
>> I consulted the page Brian sent, but I have the same problem. I tried his method of running the event filter "no immigration" and tagging all the results as "no immigration". Then I ran the people filter "foreigner" while filtering for the tag "no immigration". There are no results.
>> 
>> In short, what I want is (NOT(immigration record) ) AND (NOT(born in USA)). 
>> 
>> -deborah
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:12 PM Dave Scheipers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Actually my bad!!
>>> 
>>> You can do the event filters from within People filters using "People with the person <event>". You will need to have the two filters to get the negative of Born in the U.S. and another Filter for the negative of Immigration. The third filter finds the people that are true for both filters.
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 4:05 PM Dave Scheipers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Event Filter 1: You want the negative of those people born in the U.S. So search for that criteria and then check the box to exclude those people. People not born in the U.S.
>>>> 
>>>> Event Filter 2; You do the same for events with an immigration type and then take the negative. People with no immigration event.
>>>> 
>>>> People Filter: The  filter that searches for people that are true for both event filters 1 & 2; both rules apply. People not born in the U.S. AND do not have an immigration event.
>>>> 
>>>> Have not tested it but the logic is sound 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:14 PM Deborah Bennett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> OK, here is a related question. I want to find persons who were not born in
>>>>> the United States, and do not have an immigration event. Is there a way to
>>>>> apply two custom filters to a search?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -deborah
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:44 AM Deborah Bennett <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Les’s solution was timely and works. Thanks Les for responding with a step
>>>>> > by step answer!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You may wonder why I am looking at immigration in my tree. Ancestry has
>>>>> > free access to immigration records through midnight tonight. So I am
>>>>> > searching for immigration records which are not on FamilySearch.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -deborah
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:11 PM Les B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Deborah
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Try this:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Select People. On right hand side make sure there are no Tag or Custom
>>>>> >> Filters set.
>>>>> >> Click to Create Custom Filter (the icon on the right of the Custom Filter
>>>>> >> box)
>>>>> >> Give it Name ie No Immigration and any comment you want.
>>>>> >> Click on the + button and select "People with the personal <event>" from
>>>>> >> the Event Filter list. Start adding Immigration in the "Personal Event" box
>>>>> >> on the right and select immigration.
>>>>> >> Tick in the "Return Values that do not match the filter rules"
>>>>> >> Click OK
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Then run the Filter and see if it works.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Les
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 4:50 PM
>>>>> >> To: Gramps Users List <[email protected]>
>>>>> >> Subject: [Gramps-users] find in tree: persons with no immigration event
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> This seems so simple, I don't know why I am having trouble . . .
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I have an established Family Tree in Gramps.
>>>>> >> I want to find anyone in that tree who does not have an immigration event.
>>>>> >> I can find anyone with an immigration event by using the People list.
>>>>> >> Filter for event->immigration and press the find button. Can I filter for
>>>>> >> the absence of an immigration event? Can I tag everyone with an immigration
>>>>> >> event, then search the list for anyone without that tag?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I feel like this is doable, but I feel dumb that I can't figure it out!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -deborah
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