Re: Two questions for gkrellm on windows

On 10/02/2010 05:53 PM, Jack wrote:
> I'll try the beta - if posted means to this list, I assume I can find it
> in the archives. If not, I'd appreciate a link.
>

Actually the archives seem to have lost everything between January 16th 
and August 16th (is that thing running on Windows? *g*).

Anyway, here are the links to both installers:
http://www.srcbox.net/tmp/gkrellm-setup-2.3.4-win32-beta1.exe
http://www.srcbox.net/tmp/gkrellm-setup-2.3.4-win64-beta1.exe

Btw, please uninstall any prior version before installing with the above 
installer.

Changes since last windows release (2.3.2):
http://www.srcbox.net/projects/gkrellm/log/trunk?rev=102&stop_rev=77&verbose=on


>>> Are there any known issues like this? Can anyone suggest how to even
>>> start troubleshooting this?
>> The main issue, is Windows completely failing to help either the user
>> or the developer of the application resolve the problem. That message
>> is just plain useless.
> I love the part that says Windows will let me know if it found a solution.

I find the idea of Windows finding a solution horrible because it 
probably means that it's sending stuff to Microsoft without asking me. 
Furthermore I have never ever seen any positive outcome, i.e. it will 
not find a solution anyway (if the OS knows the problem then it could 
have avoided the crash in the first place :P).

OS X does a way better job at this. It has a helpful crash dialog that 
already gathers system information and even adds a cool backtrace for 
the developer (very helpful, especially when bundled with a log-file). 
The only drawback is that it always wants to send this report to Apple. 
But at least the user can copy the whole text-edit, paste it into a mail 
and send it to the developer.


>>> I've searched through the gkrellm for windows pages (at srcbox.net)
>>> but not found much information about plugins at all. Is there a list
>>> of available plugins?
>> There are none available so far. I have started updating some of the
>> plugins that were once available for Windows but I haven't found the
>> time to create an installer. Eventually I will start shipping them as
>> a simple zip first.
> I'll be glad to test at least some of them.
>

I'll announce it on this list as soon as I have something to test. Right 
now though I want to get GKrellM 2.3.5 out of the door, it's a pity that 
it's too late for Debian Lenny already.


>>> I'm specifically looking for something similar to gkrellmss.
>> Haven't looked at this one but I guess porting it will be difficult,
>> it directly uses ALSA or ESD. I will have a look at it when time
>> permits but I can't make any promises.
> I just noticed that cygwin has an ESD. I don't know if that would make
> it any easier, if you use mingw. I do assume going directly to the
> Windows sound system would essentially be a complete rewrite.

Yes, it will mean supporting another backend but ESD always has been a 
major problem on Linux, I really don't want to force anybody to install it.


Bye,
Stefan

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