Re: New website design: help needed

"Yury V. Zaytsev via mc-devel" <mc-devel-+hD5IHI5XseWCegYutOAJTiNl0CLU6MPYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org> Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:28:09 +0100
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> On 20. Mar 2025, at 12:08, Oswald Buddenhagen via mc-devel =
<mc-devel-+hD5IHI5XseWCegYutOAJTiNl0CLU6MPYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 02:46:55PM +0100, Yury V. Zaytsev via mc-devel =
wrote:
>> I'm now working on salvaging and archiving the Trac content, and
>> hopefully I'll be able to switch over soon.
>>=20
> we have a weird situation right now, though: the home page is still
> trac, and so it's loudly advertising its ticket tracker ... which is =
now
> defunct.

Does it? If so, could you please tell me where? I set up redirects after =
the move and thought it would be almost impossible to get into the Trac =
tracker (except for logged in users), and in any case it shouldn't be =
possible to change tickets.

I wanted to be able to easily get into Trac after the move, so I could =
check it out if something felt weird about a particular GitHub issue, =
but of course that would also be possible if I moved it to old.m-c.org. =
It's just extra work that I deprioritized to get the new site done =
sooner.

> given that the new homepage appears to be largely ready, i'd suggest
> switching over asap, and only having a few backlinks to trac (then
> hosted as old.m-c.org) where necessary.

I don't think backlinks to Trac would be necessary. There's still some =
content to be processed, but it's fine if it ends up in the archive =
repository without explicit references to it, as far as I'm concerned.

> if re-homing trac is too laborious, the old page needs some quick =
hacks
> to guide users to the new locations, unambiguously.

Nothing is too laborious. It's just that for the last two weeks I've had =
to deal with some real life stuff instead of working full time on mc. =
And wonder of wonders, it shows right away!

On top of that, I keep running into things like this that should be =
better taken care of before the move, and it's a lot of work:

https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/issues/4570

I was able to resume work on the website today, and the general idea =
would be to release it next week, unless something comes in between...

Sorry for the lack of transparency on the progress, but with the =
overwhelming amount of help I've received throughout the process, I =
didn't feel like spending any more time reporting unless asked directly.

> btw, i noticed that on the now live GH issue tracker some
> blocking/blocked-by links still point to the mc-test repo. i think =
this
> might be affecting tickets that were already closed at the time of the
> migration.

This sounds extremely weird. Could you please give me some links to =
check it out?




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charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;"><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 20. Mar =
2025, at 12:08, Oswald Buddenhagen via mc-devel =
&lt;mc-devel-+hD5IHI5XseWCegYutOAJTiNl0CLU6MPYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at =
02:46:55PM +0100, Yury V. Zaytsev via mc-devel wrote:<br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">I'm now working on salvaging and archiving the Trac =
content, and<br>hopefully I'll be able to switch over =
soon.<br><br></blockquote>we have a weird situation right now, though: =
the home page is still<br>trac, and so it's loudly advertising its =
ticket tracker ... which is =
now<br>defunct.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Does it? =
If so, could you please tell me where? I set up redirects after the move =
and thought it would be almost impossible to get into the Trac tracker =
(except for logged in users), and in any case it shouldn't be possible =
to change tickets.</div><div><br></div><div>I wanted to be able to =
easily get into Trac after the move, so I could check it out if =
something felt weird about a particular GitHub issue, but of course that =
would also be possible if I moved it to old.m-c.org.&nbsp;It's just =
extra work that I deprioritized to get the new site done =
sooner.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>given =
that the new homepage appears to be largely ready, i'd =
suggest<br>switching over asap, and only having a few backlinks to trac =
(then<br>hosted as old.m-c.org) where =
necessary.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think =
backlinks to Trac would be necessary.&nbsp;There's still some content to =
be processed, but it's fine if it ends up in the archive repository =
without explicit references to it, as far as I'm =
concerned.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>if re-homing =
trac is too laborious, the old page needs some quick hacks<br>to guide =
users to the new locations, =
unambiguously.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Nothing =
is too laborious. It's just that for the last two weeks I've had to deal =
with some real life stuff instead of working full time on mc.&nbsp;And =
wonder of wonders, it shows right away!</div><div><br></div><div>On top =
of that, I keep running into things like this that should be&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, =
0);">better&nbsp;</span>taken care of before the move, and it's a lot of =
work:</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/issues/4570">https://githu=
b.com/MidnightCommander/mc/issues/4570</a></div><div><br></div><div>I =
was able to resume work on the website today, and the general idea would =
be to release it next week, unless something comes in =
between...</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for the lack of transparency =
on the progress, but with the overwhelming amount of help I've received =
throughout the process, I didn't feel like spending any more time =
reporting unless asked directly.</div><div><br></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div><div>btw, i noticed that on the now live GH issue =
tracker some<br>blocking/blocked-by links still point to the mc-test =
repo. i think this<br>might be affecting tickets that were already =
closed at the time of =
the<br>migration.<br></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>This sounds =
extremely weird. Could you please give me some links to check it =
out?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></body></html>=

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