Do you consider Go-oo project to be a fork of OpenOffice.org?

espinosa_cz <[email protected]> Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:39:19 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.ximian.openoffice
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Dear Go-oo developers,
Do you consider Go-oo project, your project, to be a fork of OpenOffice.org?

General public opinion seems to be quite sure and general perception is =

that it is a fork or at least branch; considering Go-oo as fork is =

matter of habit for most forum speakers.

My stance same is =96 Go-oo is a patchset, with a lively community, =

providing own build, forums, but still it is primarily a patchset. I =

would consider a bed news for whole open-source community if such =

important project would fork.

Wikipedia is inconsistent here. This does not help.

In OpenOffice.org Wikipedia entry =

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org) is clearly stated that =

Go-oo is fork (details below).

In Go-oo Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-oo) is however:
Go-oo .. is a concentrated set of patches for the cross-platform =

OpenOffice.org office suite.

Details from OpenOffice.org Wikipedia entry =

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org):
[citation]
Although branded as OpenOffice.org, the office suite included in most =

Linux distributions (including Ubuntu, openSUSE and Mandriva Linux) is =

actually a fork or an unofficial branch called Go-oo.[citation end]

Are there any better articles on that topic? If yes, they should be =

added and replace the weaker existing.

My reaction in =93talk=94 page =

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:OpenOffice.org):
[citation]
Go-oo is a patchset. Full stop. Go-oo team is committed to upstream the =

changes and they upmerge changes from official (Oracle driven) OO.o =

source. Therefore they are not a fork. Please check the Go-oo article =

they have it right there. There is NO official source (Go-oo site =

preferably) suggesting we are a fork. Even the links provided are not =

suggesting that or are of a questionable quality.

I am suggesting to change the offending sentence: Although branded as =

OpenOffice.org, the office suite included in most Linux distributions =

(including Ubuntu, openSUSE and Mandriva Linux) is actually a fork or an =

unofficial branch called Go-oo.[9][10][11] to Application branded as =

OpenOffice.org in most Linux distributions (including Ubuntu, openSUSE =

and Mandriva Linux) extensively use patchset called [Go-oo], sometimes =

arguably [9][10] considered to be a special branch of OpenOffice.org. =

Any comments on this? (2 May 2010)
[citation end]

Reply from jonathon (is it someone relevant from this community?):
[citation]
It is a fork because it excludes code from upstream, and includes code =

that will not be included upstream. It is called "a special branch", =

precisely because it is a fork, with different bugs, features, and =

functions. (13 August 2010)
[citation end]

I was most struck by this statement: =93it [go-oo] excludes code from =

upstream=94.
That completely breaks my go-oo perception.
The 2.3.1 go-oo is build on top of 2.3.1 vanilla OOo.
The 2.3.0 go-oo is build on top of 2.3.0 vanilla OOo etc.
Or do I miss something important here?

I somewhat see situation with go-oo and OpenOffice.org similar to Linux =

kernel. No distribution really use vanilla kernel but patched kernel =

using patches from existing patchsets and distribution own =

modifications. Similar is also that some kernel patches contains code =

never or hardly make it into the upstream (Suspend2/TuxOnIce, Colivas =

scheduler patches, proprietary drivers, various splash screens,..)

I intend to use reply to this post (if there are any) as a reference to =

Wikipedia.

Best Regards
Espinosa