Re: Red Carpet upgrade to Evo causing Gnome application crashes

Thanks for that Mark, and I take the point about
end-of-life. For reference my earlier comments were a
bit premature. The desktop was unstable and so I fully
downgraded to where I was before the update i.e. I
also downgraded Xft, freetype, fontconfig and
Evolution (to 1.4.6-0.ximian.5.5). So far so good.

Percy

 --- Mark Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, I
have news to report.
> 
> 1) This was apparently by design.  The design didn't
> quite get
> communicated, though.  I'm poking the necessary
> people to get that
> changed.
> 
> 2) Red Hat Linux 8.0 is past its end-of-life, i.e.
> there aren't any more
> security fixes coming from Red Hat itself.
> 
> 3) There was a security bug in one of the mozilla
> libraries we use.  For
> that reason, we're requiring an updated mozilla. 
> The downgrade I
> suggest works, nominally, but apparently it's not
> entirely secure.
> Since Red Hat isn't providing new mozilla packages
> for 8.0, XD2 mozilla
> becomes a functional necessity, assuming you want a
> fix to the security
> bug.  If you also want galeon, that's also
> available... from XD2.
> 
> 4) I'm told one of the widgets in Evo (not sure
> which one) has a bug
> that is fixed in newer gtk2 -- hence, the updated
> gtk2 requirement.
> This implies that you'll be running into problems at
> some point of you
> use the old gtk2.
> 
> Options for Red Hat Linux 8.0 / Evolution users
> include:
> 
> 1) Sticking with (or reverting to) Evo 1.4.5
> 2) Installing XD2
> 3) My workaround, which apparently has its weak
> points.
> 4) Upgrading to a newer distro.  Red Hat Linux 9 is
> one option, for now,
> but it's a bit of a dead end.  It's already past its
> end-of-life as
> well, and there's no telling when we'll effectively
> require XD2 in order
> to get newer Evo working on that platform.  In terms
> of Ximian-supported
> platforms, SUSE is clearly the best long-term option
> (since Ximian and
> SUSE are both now owned by Novell), but that depends
> on your priorities.
> Evo 2.0 probably won't be supported on the full
> range of platforms on
> which 1.4 is currently supported, but we'll cross
> that bridge when we
> come to it.
> 
> -Mark Gordon
> 
> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 21:49 +1200, Percy Gee wrote:
> > This worked thanks Mark and I do not appear to
> have to
> > revert to an earlier version of Evolution. And yes
> I
> > do have 'stock RH Gnome'.
> > 
> > Percy
> > 
> >  --- Mark Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > On
> > Wed, 2004-05-05 at 20:34 +1200, Percy Gee wrote:
> > > > I am running RH8 and yesterday I used Red
> Carpet
> > > to
> > > > upgrade to the latest version of Evolution
> > > > (1.4.6-0.ximian.5.6).
> > > > Red Carpet identified as required and
> installed
> > > the
> > > > following additional upgrades: Xft, freetype,
> > > > fontconfig, glib2, gtk2, pango, mozilla,
> > > mozilla-nspr,
> > > > mozilla-nss, and mozilla-psm.
> > > > The following packages were removed:
> mozilla-chat,
> > > > mozilla-mail and galeon (which was my default
> > > > browser).
> > > > Since the upgrade I cannot run any Gnome
> > > applications
> > > > or Evolution. I get the message:
> > > > Application "(name)" (process ..) has crashed
> due
> > > to a
> > > > fatal error. (Segmentation fault)
> > > > I can log on and use applications in KDE and
> with
> > > > Konqueror have internet access. Can anybody
> help
> > > me
> > > > sort this out please?
> > > > 
> > > > Percy
> > > 
> > > Ugh.  Um, yeah, I can reproduce this.  Stock RH
> > > Gnome, right?
> > > 
> > > For now, my advice is to revert to RH
> > > glib2/gtk2/pango/mozilla*/galeon.
> > > If this requires --oldpackage and --nodeps, so
> be it
> > > (I normally
> > > consider use of either of those to be Evil, but
> I've
> > > tested it in this
> > > case).  If you run into problems with Evolution
> (I
> > > didn't, after doing
> > > what I describe above), you might be better off
> > > downgrading to 1.4.5,
> > > though finding packages may be a bit tricky.
> > > 
> > > I'm going to ask some people about this.  It's
> > > possible we'll end up
> > > with a rebuilt Evolution package for 8.0.
> > > 
> > > -Mark Gordon
> > > 
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