Re: some questions
David Squire <[email protected]> Sat, 14 May 2011 15:22:29 +1000
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0607528327374039539== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010506000303000501060501" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010506000303000501060501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you search the archives of this mailing list, you will find link to a tar ball of the code for the Perl interface. You can also test your server simply by typing you GIFT hostname and port into http://viper.infotech.monash.edu.au/~davids/cgi-bin/PerlMRMLClient/PerlMRMLClient.pl and clicking "Change Server". Regards, David On 14/05/11 2:51 PM, zhigao pu wrote: > Hi Henning, > > How can I use GIFT system, and see whether it works after indexing > and running the gift server? I am just stuck here and do not know > what to do next. > > Since there is no Charmer download, other than using Charmer, how > can I connect to the gift server, and query the images? > > You mentioned PHP integration is easy but I can not find any docs > for it. Can you please point me to some information for this? > > Thanks a lot! > > > Zhigao > > > > > Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 08:41:55 +0200 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] some questions > > > > No, Charmer is absolutely not required to run GIFT. It is one of the > > many clients for the MRML protocol you could use and it is the oldest > > one, so it might even be hard to make it work. > > > > The link for the GIFT demo is indeed wrong and not working any more. > > > > There is a demo for a medical database with GIFT working at: > > http://medgift.unige.ch/demo/ > > > > Cheers, Henning > > > > On 5/13/11 6:11 AM, zhigao pu wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Can you please tell me whether Charmer-0.2 is required to run GIFT. It > > > seems the link in > http://www.gnu.org/software/gift/mrml-clients.html is > > > broken. Where can I get a downloadable Charmer-0.2? > > > > > > Also the demo page in all the GIFT official sites is not working. Is > > > there any working GIFT demo page? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Zhigao > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:05:23 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] some questions > > > > > > Hi Henning and all, > > > > > > I just built the major portion of gift-0.1.14 under Fedora 12 > after many > > > modifications in some of the source codes, though they are all minor > > > compiling issues. I wonder whether this gift-0.1.14 is the best > version > > > we can get. > > > > > > I by now have not been able to know whether the gift built by me works > > > or not. But I can not find a detailed documentation in the GIFT web > > > site. Why is it so? I also can not built the doc portion of gift, and > > > got the following errors. > > > > > > Can you please tell me where I can find detailed documentation for > using > > > GIFT, and also the PHP interface for integration PHP with GIFT? > This is > > > important for me. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > Zhigao > > > > > > below is the error from building gift doc: > > > > > > make[1]: [system-doc] Error 1 (ignored) > > > test "/usr/bin/doxygen" && /usr/bin/doxygen > > > Warning: Tag `MAX_DOT_GRAPH_WIDTH' at line 122 of file Doxyfile has > > > become obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `MAX_DOT_GRAPH_HEIGHT' at line 123 of file Doxyfile has > > > become obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `CGI_NAME' at line 128 of file Doxyfile has become > obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `CGI_URL' at line 129 of file Doxyfile has become > obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `DOC_URL' at line 130 of file Doxyfile has become > obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `DOC_ABSPATH' at line 131 of file Doxyfile has become > obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `BIN_ABSPATH' at line 132 of file Doxyfile has become > obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Warning: Tag `EXT_DOC_PATHS' at line 133 of file Doxyfile has become > > > obsolete. > > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using > > > "doxygen -u" > > > Error: tag HTML_HEADER: header file `HTML/DoxygenHeader.html' does > not exist > > > make[1]: [system-doc] Error 1 (ignored) > > > test "/usr/bin/sgml2latex" && /usr/bin/sgml2latex --output=dvi > > > configuring-and-hacking-the-gift.sgml > > > Processing file configuring-and-hacking-the-gift.sgml > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: cannot open > > > "/usr/share/sgml/dtd/linuxdoc.dtd" (No such file or directory) > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: DTD did not contain element > declaration > > > for document type name > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "ARTICLE" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "LINUXDOC" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:4:12:E: element "TITLE" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:5:13:E: element "AUTHOR" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:6:11:E: element "DATE" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:7:15:E: element "ABSTRACT" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:16:8:E: element "TOC" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:17:9:E: element "SECT" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:18:14:E: element "HEADING" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:19:8:E: element "P" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:19:12:E: element "EM" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:21:37:E: element "TT" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:24:8:E: element "P" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:29:9:E: element "SECT" undefined > > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:30:14:E: element "HEADING" undefined > > > ... > > > ... > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: cannot open > > > "/usr/share/sgml/dtd/linuxdoc.dtd" (No such file or directory) > > > bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: DTD did not contain element > > > declaration for document type name > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "ARTICLE" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "LINUXDOC" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:4:12:E: element "TITLE" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:5:13:E: element "AUTHOR" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:6:11:E: element "DATE" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:7:15:E: element "ABSTRACT" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:16:8:E: element "TOC" undefined > > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory > > > ... > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:12:57 +0200 > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] some questions > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > using GIFT in a commercial project should be fine. If you modify it > > > > these modifications should be made available under GNU license > as well. > > > > These are basically the constraints of the GNU license. > > > > > > > > The quality of GIFT depends very much on the images. GIFT uses > global > > > > features and features in fixed regions, this means that if you > compare > > > > tissue it should be fine, whereas for objects it might not work this > > > > well. You would need to check the performance for your types of > images, > > > > I think. > > > > > > > > There are PHP interfaces, so the integration should be very easy. > > > > > > > > GIFT scales all images to 256x256 before it extracts features, > so image > > > > size is not important. For up to 150'000 images there should > also be no > > > > speed or size problem. > > > > > > > > Cheers, Henning > > > > > > > > On 5/11/11 11:55 AM, zhigao pu wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I am new to GIFT. I am thinking about using GIFT to build a visual > > > > > search engine for my commercial shopping web site. I would > like to ask > > > > > the following questions: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Since GIFT is covered by GNU public license. Using it to > provide > > > > > visual search for my commercial web site is allowable and do not > > > need to > > > > > pay any royalty fees. Is this correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. My visual search is mainly on fashion products like > clothes, shoes, > > > > > bags etc. Is GIFT a good candidate for doing this kind of visual > > > search? > > > > > What's the recognition rate level for this kind of search? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. My site is built using PHP + mysql. Is that possible to > integrate > > > > > GIFT with PHP? How to do it? any documentations? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Is there any limitations for the size of the indexes of the > images? > > > > > or say, can i make GIFT to be scalable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > Zhigao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > help-GIFT mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > help-GIFT mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift > > > > > > _______________________________________________ help-GIFT mailing list > > > [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift > > > > _______________________________________________ > > help-GIFT mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift > > > _______________________________________________ > help-GIFT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift -- Dr David McG. Squire, Senior Lecturer Clayton School of Information Technology, Monash University, Australia CRICOS Provider No. 00008C http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~davids/ --------------010506000303000501060501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> If you search the archives of this mailing list, you will find link to a tar ball of the code for the Perl interface.<br> <br> You can also test your server simply by typing you GIFT hostname and port into <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://viper.infotech.monash.edu.au/~davids/cgi-bin/PerlMRMLClient/PerlMRMLClient.pl">http://viper.infotech.monash.edu.au/~davids/cgi-bin/PerlMRMLClient/PerlMRMLClient.pl</a> and clicking "Change Server".<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> David<br> <br> <br> On 14/05/11 2:51 PM, zhigao pu wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:[email protected]" type="cite"> <style><!-- .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Tahoma } --></style> Hi Henning,<br> <br> How can I use GIFT system, and see whether it works after indexing and running the gift server? I am just stuck here and do not know what to do next.<br> <br> Since there is no Charmer download, other than using Charmer, how can I connect to the gift server, and query the images?<br> <br> You mentioned PHP integration is easy but I can not find any docs for it. Can you please point me to some information for this?<br> <br> Thanks a lot!<br> <br> <br> Zhigao<br> <br> <br> <br> > Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 08:41:55 +0200<br> > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] some questions<br> > <br> > No, Charmer is absolutely not required to run GIFT. It is one of the <br> > many clients for the MRML protocol you could use and it is the oldest <br> > one, so it might even be hard to make it work.<br> > <br> > The link for the GIFT demo is indeed wrong and not working any more.<br> > <br> > There is a demo for a medical database with GIFT working at:<br> > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://medgift.unige.ch/demo/">http://medgift.unige.ch/demo/</a><br> > <br> > Cheers, Henning<br> > <br> > On 5/13/11 6:11 AM, zhigao pu wrote:<br> > > Hi,<br> > ><br> > > Can you please tell me whether Charmer-0.2 is required to run GIFT. It<br> > > seems the link in <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gnu.org/software/gift/mrml-clients.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/gift/mrml-clients.html</a> is<br> > > broken. Where can I get a downloadable Charmer-0.2?<br> > ><br> > > Also the demo page in all the GIFT official sites is not working. Is<br> > > there any working GIFT demo page?<br> > ><br> > > regards,<br> > ><br> > > Zhigao<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> > > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:05:23 +0000<br> > > Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] some questions<br> > ><br> > > Hi Henning and all,<br> > ><br> > > I just built the major portion of gift-0.1.14 under Fedora 12 after many<br> > > modifications in some of the source codes, though they are all minor<br> > > compiling issues. I wonder whether this gift-0.1.14 is the best version<br> > > we can get.<br> > ><br> > > I by now have not been able to know whether the gift built by me works<br> > > or not. But I can not find a detailed documentation in the GIFT web<br> > > site. Why is it so? I also can not built the doc portion of gift, and<br> > > got the following errors.<br> > ><br> > > Can you please tell me where I can find detailed documentation for using<br> > > GIFT, and also the PHP interface for integration PHP with GIFT? This is<br> > > important for me.<br> > ><br> > > Thank you very much.<br> > ><br> > > Zhigao<br> > ><br> > > below is the error from building gift doc:<br> > ><br> > > make[1]: [system-doc] Error 1 (ignored)<br> > > test "/usr/bin/doxygen" && /usr/bin/doxygen<br> > > Warning: Tag `MAX_DOT_GRAPH_WIDTH' at line 122 of file Doxyfile has<br> > > become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `MAX_DOT_GRAPH_HEIGHT' at line 123 of file Doxyfile has<br> > > become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `CGI_NAME' at line 128 of file Doxyfile has become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `CGI_URL' at line 129 of file Doxyfile has become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `DOC_URL' at line 130 of file Doxyfile has become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `DOC_ABSPATH' at line 131 of file Doxyfile has become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `BIN_ABSPATH' at line 132 of file Doxyfile has become obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Warning: Tag `EXT_DOC_PATHS' at line 133 of file Doxyfile has become<br> > > obsolete.<br> > > To avoid this warning please update your configuration file using<br> > > "doxygen -u"<br> > > Error: tag HTML_HEADER: header file `HTML/DoxygenHeader.html' does not exist<br> > > make[1]: [system-doc] Error 1 (ignored)<br> > > test "/usr/bin/sgml2latex" && /usr/bin/sgml2latex --output=dvi<br> > > configuring-and-hacking-the-gift.sgml<br> > > Processing file configuring-and-hacking-the-gift.sgml<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: cannot open<br> > > "/usr/share/sgml/dtd/linuxdoc.dtd" (No such file or directory)<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: DTD did not contain element declaration<br> > > for document type name<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "ARTICLE" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "LINUXDOC" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:4:12:E: element "TITLE" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:5:13:E: element "AUTHOR" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:6:11:E: element "DATE" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:7:15:E: element "ABSTRACT" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:16:8:E: element "TOC" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:17:9:E: element "SECT" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:18:14:E: element "HEADING" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:19:8:E: element "P" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:19:12:E: element "EM" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:21:37:E: element "TT" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:24:8:E: element "P" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:29:9:E: element "SECT" undefined<br> > > /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:30:14:E: element "HEADING" undefined<br> > > ...<br> > > ...<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: cannot open<br> > > "/usr/share/sgml/dtd/linuxdoc.dtd" (No such file or directory)<br> > > bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:1:60:E: DTD did not contain element<br> > > declaration for document type name<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "ARTICLE" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:10:E: element "LINUXDOC" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:4:12:E: element "TITLE" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:5:13:E: element "AUTHOR" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:6:11:E: element "DATE" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:7:15:E: element "ABSTRACT" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > # /usr/bin/nsgmls:<OSFD>0:16:8:E: element "TOC" undefined<br> > > bash: OSFD: No such file or directory<br> > > ...<br> > > ...<br> > ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:12:57 +0200<br> > > > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > > > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > > > Subject: Re: [help-GIFT] some questions<br> > > ><br> > > > Hi,<br> > > ><br> > > > using GIFT in a commercial project should be fine. If you modify it<br> > > > these modifications should be made available under GNU license as well.<br> > > > These are basically the constraints of the GNU license.<br> > > ><br> > > > The quality of GIFT depends very much on the images. GIFT uses global<br> > > > features and features in fixed regions, this means that if you compare<br> > > > tissue it should be fine, whereas for objects it might not work this<br> > > > well. You would need to check the performance for your types of images,<br> > > > I think.<br> > > ><br> > > > There are PHP interfaces, so the integration should be very easy.<br> > > ><br> > > > GIFT scales all images to 256x256 before it extracts features, so image<br> > > > size is not important. For up to 150'000 images there should also be no<br> > > > speed or size problem.<br> > > ><br> > > > Cheers, Henning<br> > > ><br> > > > On 5/11/11 11:55 AM, zhigao pu wrote:<br> > > > > Hi all,<br> > > > ><br> > > > > I am new to GIFT. I am thinking about using GIFT to build a visual<br> > > > > search engine for my commercial shopping web site. I would like to ask<br> > > > > the following questions:<br> > > > ><br> > > > > 1. Since GIFT is covered by GNU public license. Using it to provide<br> > > > > visual search for my commercial web site is allowable and do not<br> > > need to<br> > > > > pay any royalty fees. Is this correct?<br> > > > ><br> > > > ><br> > > > > 2. My visual search is mainly on fashion products like clothes, shoes,<br> > > > > bags etc. Is GIFT a good candidate for doing this kind of visual<br> > > search?<br> > > > > What's the recognition rate level for this kind of search?<br> > > > ><br> > > > ><br> > > > > 3. My site is built using PHP + mysql. Is that possible to integrate<br> > > > > GIFT with PHP? How to do it? any documentations?<br> > > > ><br> > > > ><br> > > > > 4. Is there any limitations for the size of the indexes of the images?<br> > > > > or say, can i make GIFT to be scalable?<br> > > > ><br> > > > ><br> > > > > Thanks a lot<br> > > > ><br> > > > > Zhigao<br> > > > ><br> > > > ><br> > > > ><br> > > > > _______________________________________________<br> > > > > help-GIFT mailing list<br> > > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift">https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift</a><br> > > ><br> > > > _______________________________________________<br> > > > help-GIFT mailing list<br> > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > > > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift">https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift</a><br> > ><br> > > _______________________________________________ help-GIFT mailing list<br> > > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift">https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift</a><br> > <br> > _______________________________________________<br> > help-GIFT mailing list<br> > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift">https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift</a><br> <pre wrap=""> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> _______________________________________________ help-GIFT mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift">https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift</a></pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Dr David McG. Squire, Senior Lecturer Clayton School of Information Technology, Monash University, Australia CRICOS Provider No. 00008C <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~davids/">http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~davids/</a> </pre> </body> </html> --------------010506000303000501060501-- --===============0607528327374039539== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ help-GIFT mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gift --===============0607528327374039539==--