Re: copy&paste in vim inside screen that started from console (not started from under X)

ping <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnu.screen.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
thanks again Kevin!
just read this and following the instructions it work!
I'll going to test the -X/-T options and feedback my test result.

best regards
ping


regards
ping

On 09/06/2011 04:14 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
> Hi Ping,
>
> There are a couple of options for setting DISPLAY automatically for 
> new windows.
>
> 1. You could put "export DISPLAY=:0.0" in your bashrc file.
> 2. You could put "setenv DISPLAY :0.0" in your screenrc file.
> 3. You could manually run the above screen command (via C-a :) in an 
> active screen session. (this would set it for all new windows).
>
> Regarding the other issues, it looks like vim relies on X for a lot of 
> stuff. I'm not a vim user, but you might want to test the "-X" and "-T 
> screen" options to vim. They might help out.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:31 PM, ping <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     hi kevin/folks:
>
>     just update about this issue.
>     this morning my X got froze after long weekend -- I was able to
>     work on it in ssh all the time though.
>     I have 2 screen sessions previously created using option 2) --
>     start screen inside ssh connections to loopback.
>     I killed the X and got a new X.
>     I re-attached my 2 old screen sessions. here is what I observed:
>
>             everything "looks" is still there, but
>             all my own vim key mappings got lost, only the default key
>     maps work. --- looks vim issue.
>             all login sessions (telnet/ssh) to remote servers got
>     lost, --- look vim issue. (I run vim ConqueTerm plugin and login
>     to server from that)
>             vim behave strange, no "tab completion" under vim cmd
>     now.  ---looks vim issue
>             cp/paste doesn't work well, this looks expected I think,
>     guess this is because vim is still sticking to previous X clipboard
>                 while it is now running with a new X (display ID
>     changed)  ---looks X issue.
>
>     so overall I can't blame screen at all.
>
>     I'm going to switch to option 1: start screen in console and
>     re-attach it in X. just it's boring to type export DISPLAY=:0.0 in
>     every windows.
>
>     is there a way to automatically execute a cmd(s) right before a
>     new windows got created?
>
>     and, furthermore, anyone had better vim/screen integration
>     tips/solutions is highly welcomed to share his/her experiences ...
>
>     thanks!
>
>     regards
>     ping
>
>
>
>     On 08/02/2011 06:32 PM, ping wrote:
>>     kevin,
>>     thanks for your time on that. but you forget " when you yank to
>>     register, so to yank things to X clipboard, type:
>>     "+
>>     not just +
>>
>>     yes I just tested your 2 more alternates out, here is the results:
>>     option 1) the export DISPLAY method works great!
>>     option 2) the ssh method also works in terms of copy&paste
>>     I have to wait and see it survives across next X restart--I think
>>     it can.
>>
>>     and, I think this option2) also has its value given that option1
>>     works, imaging I can create a screen from ssh remotely. starting
>>     screen from console I need to have physical access to my laptop...
>>
>>     thanks again! I hope other screen/vim-lovers also enjoy these
>>     workarounds.
>>
>>     regards
>>     ping
>>
>>     On 08/02/2011 12:13 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM, ping <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         hi Kevin / Paul :
>>>         yes I think this might be vim issue. or , at least vim-screen integration issue.
>>>         but being able to use vim smoothly in screen is essential for my daily work and it is a big part of my use of screen.
>>>           
>>>         the steps to reproduce is quick simple:
>>>         1) c-s-5 to go to console 5
>>>         2) start screen : screen -S test
>>>         3) c-s-7 to go back X
>>>         4) screen -dR test to attach the screen
>>>         5) start vim in screen session 0 (or any other sessions)
>>>             vim
>>>         6) type "i" go into insert mode, then start to type anything there, for example:
>>>             some texts that I want to coy to editor geany
>>>             type<esc>  key to leave insert mode
>>>         7) shift-v to mark the line in vim, "+y to copy it into register "+
>>>
>>>         now at this point, ":registers" command shows the texts are in "0 "" and ". register, but not even in the "+ register.
>>>         I think that's why I can't paste it to any apps in X.
>>>
>>>
>>>     This does not work for me either. But it does not work for me
>>>     under X or outside of screen either.  After shift-v, pressing +
>>>     gives me a system beep indicating some error. Pressing y does
>>>     the usual yank.
>>>
>>>         and the "left button to mark and select and middle button to paste" method that usually works in X seems not work for vim, at least in my case...
>>>         its ok for other editors like nano.
>>>
>>>     Using the mouse works fine for me.
>>>
>>>         I think the "left button text mark" was intercepted by vim for other usage. that said, if I disable mouse in vim(set mouse-=a), I'm ok
>>>         to achieve the same effect with that method. but again, I don't understand why vim "+ or "* register doesn't cooperatively work inside screen that started outside of X (from console in this case).
>>>
>>>         and, as what I usually did, if I start screen from inside X and start vim there (but vim won't survive accross X reboot, OK, that's another issue), with the help of these vimrc config:
>>>         if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>>>                    set term=xterm
>>>                    let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
>>>                  else
>>>                    let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
>>>                  endif
>>>         or even this:
>>>         if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>>>            set term=xterm
>>>         endif
>>>
>>>         (see thishttp://vim.wikia.com/wiki/GNU_Screen_integration)
>>>
>>>         I can copy things to "+ or "* and then paste the content from these registers to X apps...
>>>
>>>     This still did not work for me. I see nothing in the + register
>>>     and get the system beep.
>>>
>>>         I'm not sure if plugin fakeclip that another advice I got from this alias work or not (looks most for maxOS), I haven't try it yet...
>>>
>>>
>>>     How about this idea. Under X, open an terminal. Then ssh to
>>>     localhost. Then start screen. The screen session should persist
>>>     across X reboots since sshd is started outside of X. You might
>>>     want to experiment with the -X and -Y option to ssh to see if
>>>     that has any affect.
>>>
>>>     Another idea. Do as before (start screen from a non-X console)
>>>     and do a "export DISPLAY=:0.0" or what every display you are on
>>>     before starting vim. Maybe vim and/or your mouse is using that
>>>     to get to the xclipboard.
>>>
>>>         thanks.
>>>
>>>         regards
>>>         ping
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         >  On 08/01/2011 04:28 PM, Paul Ackersviller wrote:
>>>
>>>         This is now just a problem with vim and not specific to screen, correct?
>>>         I don't know why any of the above is ever necessary, unless it's some sort
>>>         of workaround for the use of ttymouse.  If you're setting ttymouse in vim
>>>         (or maybe someone else is setting it for you), you need to hold down a shift
>>>         key for vim to ignore mouse clicks and pass them through to the terminal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 07/29/2011 02:16 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>>>>         Ping,
>>>>
>>>>         I'm not a vim user, so I don't know what that code is
>>>>         supposed to do or how to use it. Can you provide the step
>>>>         by steps to reproduce the issue. You should be able to use
>>>>         the copy/paste feature of your window manager or X11. For
>>>>         me, I can highlight text with the mouse and then paste it
>>>>         with the middle mouse button.
>>>>
>>>>         Kevin
>>>>
>>>>         On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM, ping
>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             hi kevin:
>>>>             I tried that and it looks good, in terms that my apps
>>>>             inside screen now get retained across X reboot...but
>>>>             then I find another issue that make it hard to use this
>>>>             approach in practice:
>>>>             it looks now I can't copy$paste between vim and other
>>>>             apps, or even between vim instances I was running
>>>>             inside screen...
>>>>             previously I can at least achieve that with following
>>>>             vim config:
>>>>
>>>>             if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>>>>               set term=xterm
>>>>               let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
>>>>             else
>>>>               let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
>>>>             endif
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             function! InScreen(command)
>>>>               return g:GNU_Screen_used ? 'screen '.a:command :
>>>>             a:command
>>>>             endfunction
>>>>
>>>>             I double maybe this related to the fact that, with this
>>>>             approach now screen (and all its child) is not a child
>>>>             of X, so it has problem to access the X selections or
>>>>             clipboards...
>>>>             any idea?
>>>>
>>>>             regards
>>>>             ping
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 07/07/2011 03:21 PM, ping wrote:
>>>>>             hi Kevin:
>>>>>             thanks and that sounds exactly what my issue was.
>>>>>             I'll try start screen from outside of X and see if it
>>>>>             is ok.
>>>>>
>>>>>             regards
>>>>>             ping
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 07/07/2011 09:37 AM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>>>>>>             Ping,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             If you start screen from an X session,  then screen
>>>>>>             is a child of X. So when X dies, so does screen. To
>>>>>>             do what you want, you would have to start screen
>>>>>>             outside of X.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             There are many ways to do this. For example, you
>>>>>>             could start a screen session at boot time from
>>>>>>             rc.local. Or you could just switch to a different tty
>>>>>>             (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) and start a new screen session
>>>>>>             there. Then go back to X (ctrl-alt-F7) and reattach
>>>>>>             to that screen session.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, ping
>>>>>>             <[email protected]
>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 guys:
>>>>>>                 I use screen for years and I'm happy with it.
>>>>>>                 one thing annoyed me a lot is everytime when i
>>>>>>                 need to reload X (it's not stable), and when I
>>>>>>                 come back and find everything in my screen (vim,
>>>>>>                 news, mutt, telnet, ssh,...everything) also went
>>>>>>                 away, the session/windows are there though.
>>>>>>                 searching the internet I haven't got much useful
>>>>>>                 info.
>>>>>>                 people are saying they use screen to get
>>>>>>                 persistent sessions across X...how can i archive
>>>>>>                 that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 regards
>>>>>>                 ping
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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