Re: CS, CEL etc. 2.2 then 3.0
Stefano Angeleri <[email protected]> Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:47:54 +0200
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--===============3732789871637293000== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdca5ae2d3aea04f7b524bb --047d7bdca5ae2d3aea04f7b524bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Oss would still be needed for bsd and wont change aside going ossv4 but aren't we using openAl which should cover the API support issues? It's up to who builds openal to choose which API to target On Apr 23, 2014 1:53 PM, "Jorrit Tyberghein" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Below are some core proposals to discuss/argue about then vote on. >> > >> > === CS, CEL etc. 2.2 release === >> > >> > - Update bullet plugin(s) to be able to use 2.81. >> > > Agreed > > >> > - Continue support of Cg in 2.x series. >> > > We can drop Cg if GLSL can cover everything we need. Besides some > reflection shaders I have no idea if this is the case or not. > > >> > - Stabilise code base. >> > > Can you be more specific about this? > > >> > - Move bug tracking back to SF. We need to have solid tracking and >> > even give anonymous people ability to file them. Unless it is reported >> > we do not know. If we do not know we cannot fix. A bit of possible >> > spam we should be able to live with. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > - Bring CSEditing into release cycle. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > - Drop old move recorder. >> > > Agreed. > >> > >> > === CS, CEL etc. 3.0 release development. === >> > >> > - Drop Cg. >> > > See above. > > >> > - Drop OSS audio. >> > > Don't know much about audio but what's the alternative? ALSA? > > >> > - Re-enable Java. >> > > Agreed if we can find someone who is willing to put effort in this. It is > possible that not much is needed though. > > >> > - Drop old/unused platforms. >> > > Which old platforms do we still support? > > >> > - Add Android support. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > - Licenses audit. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > - Audit, document, maintain as tier 1, 2 etc. elements of projects. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > Improve tracking of project code, state, dependencies etc. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > - Audit levels and data resources for licenses and usefulness. >> > > Agreed. > > >> > - Review tutorials/test apps and change or add where appropriate. >> > > Agreed. > > >> - Remove unused older/bullet plugin. >> > > Agreed. > > >> - Drop ODE support. >> > > Agreed. > > >> >> Regards >> >> Phil >> >> -- >> >> Phil Wyett >> { >> GNU Linux User and Developer >> Leigh GNU Linux User Group (http://leigh.lug.org.uk) >> IRC: philwyett >> Twitter: philwyett and leigh_lug >> } >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform >> Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software >> Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready >> Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform >> _______________________________________________ >> Crystal-develop mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crystal-develop >> >> > > > -- > Project Manager of Crystal Space and CEL (http://www.crystalspace3d.org/<http://www.crystalspace3d.org/main/Main_Page> > ) > Project Manager of AresEd (https://code.google.com/p/ares/) > Support: https://www.gittip.com/jorritTyb/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform > Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software > Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready > Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform > _______________________________________________ > Crystal-develop mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crystal-develop > > --047d7bdca5ae2d3aea04f7b524bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>Oss would still be needed for bsd and wont change aside going ossv4 but = aren't we using openAl which should cover the API support issues? It= 9;s up to who builds openal to choose which API to target</p> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 23, 2014 1:53 PM, "Jorrit Tyberghein= " <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jorrit.tyberghein= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmai= l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left= :1ex"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>> Below are some core proposals to = discuss/argue about then vote on.<br> ><br> > =3D=3D=3D CS, CEL etc. 2.2 release =3D=3D=3D<br> ><br> > - Update bullet plugin(s) to be able to use 2.81.<br></div></div></blo= ckquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Continue support of Cg in 2.x series.<br></div></div></blockquote><d= iv><br></div><div>We can drop Cg if GLSL can cover everything we need. Besi= des some reflection shaders I have no idea if this is the case or not.</div= > <div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8= ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div> > - Stabilise code base.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div= >Can you be more specific about this?</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa= dding-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Move bug tracking back to SF. We need to have solid tracking and<br> > =C2=A0 even give anonymous people ability to file them. Unless it is r= eported<br> > =C2=A0 we do not know. If we do not know we cannot fix. A bit of possi= ble<br> > =C2=A0 spam we should be able to live with.<br></div></div></blockquot= e><div><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gm= ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le= ft:1ex"><div> <div> > - Bring CSEditing into release cycle.<br></div></div></blockquote><div= ><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu= ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex= "><div> <div> > - Drop old move recorder.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><= div>Agreed.=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 = 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div> ><br> > =3D=3D=3D CS, CEL etc. 3.0 release development. =3D=3D=3D<br> ><br> > - Drop Cg.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>See above.<= /div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0= 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div> > - Drop OSS audio.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don&= #39;t know much about audio but what's the alternative? ALSA?</div><div= >=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b= order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Re-enable Java.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agre= ed if we can find someone who is willing to put effort in this. It is possi= ble that not much is needed though.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Drop old/unused platforms.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></di= v><div>Which old platforms do we still support?</div><div>=C2=A0</div><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc= c solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Add Android support.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div= >Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> <div> > - Licenses audit.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agre= ed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= :0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div> > - Audit, document, maintain as tier 1, 2 etc. elements of projects.<br= ></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1= px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div> > =C2=A0 Improve tracking of project code, state, dependencies etc.<br><= /div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Audit levels and data resources for licenses and usefulness.<br></di= v></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= cc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div> > - Review tutorials/test apps and change or add where appropriate.<br><= /div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div> </div></div>=C2=A0 - Remove unused older/bullet plugin.<br></blockquote><di= v><br></div><div>Agreed.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e= x"> =C2=A0 - Drop ODE support.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed.</div= ><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .= 8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div><div><br> Regards<br> <br> Phil<br> <br> --<br> <br> Phil Wyett<br> {<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 GNU Linux User and Developer<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Leigh GNU Linux User Group (<a href=3D"http://leigh.lug.org.u= k" target=3D"_blank">http://leigh.lug.org.uk</a>)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IRC: philwyett<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Twitter: philwyett and leigh_lug<br> }<br> </div></div><br>-----------------------------------------------------------= -------------------<br> Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform<br> Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software<br> Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready<br> Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform<br> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.n= et/sfu/ExoPlatform</a><br>_______________________________________________<b= r> Crystal-develop mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">= [email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crystal-develop" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crystal-develo= p</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Project = Manager of Crystal Space and CEL (<a href=3D"http://www.crystalspace3d.org/= main/Main_Page" target=3D"_blank">http://www.crystalspace3d.org/</a>)<br>Pr= oject Manager of AresEd (<a href=3D"https://code.google.com/p/ares/" target= =3D"_blank">https://code.google.com/p/ares/</a>)<div> Support:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.gittip.com/jorritTyb/" target=3D"_blan= k">https://www.gittip.com/jorritTyb/</a><br><br></div> </div></div> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------<br> Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform<br> Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software<br> Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready<br> Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform<br> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform" target=3D"_blank">http://p.sf.n= et/sfu/ExoPlatform</a><br>_______________________________________________<b= r> Crystal-develop mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Crystal-develop@li= sts.sourceforge.net</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crystal-develop" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crystal-develo= p</a><br> <br></blockquote></div> --047d7bdca5ae2d3aea04f7b524bb-- --===============3732789871637293000== Content-Type: text/plain; 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