Re: Choosing the Initial Thumbnail Size
Matt Fahrner <[email protected]> Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:07:39 -0500
| Newsgroups | gmane.comp.graphics.imatch |
|---|---|
| Organization | BOINK! Photography |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
I assume there must be a way to regenerate your thumbnails after the fact? If so I'm tempted to redo mine a little larger. I haven't been paying attention, so I might have missed a response to that end (I apologize if so). Does anyone have a way to do this for the entire set of images in the database? Thanks, - Matt [email protected] wrote: > > I have been playing around with IMatch (v. 3.4.0.29) in the last few > days. One of the things that seems important at first is the choice > of thumbnail size, since it cannot be changed once the database is > created. And you don't want to import 50,000 photos and find out > that the thumbnail size is too small to see!!! > > TEST #1: I created a few test databases to try and figure out what > the optimum size is for my situation, and thought that I would share > the info with all of you (in hope that another newbie might find it > of interest). > > All of the databases were created using the same number of photos: > 1299. Most of the photos (> 95%) are JPG, with the rest Canon RAW. > At the moment, I have a total of around 10,000 photos, but I thought > that the smaller amount would give a good representation that could > be extrapolated upwards. > > FYI: I have a 19" monitor set at 1280 x 1024. The thumbnail size > that you choose should depend on your settings (as well as your > eyesight). > > I tried three different thumbnail settings: 160x160, 200x200, and > 300x300. I started at 160x160, since that is what a few people > recommended. I ended at 300x00 since I have read a few people > recommend setting the thumbnail size at the largest setting, and > then choosing a Thumb-Lens Setting (which is basically a zoom ratio) > to reduce it later. > > I kept all other settings/options the same for these tests > (including the thumbnail quality). In the end, the only file that > changed size was the .IMT file (which I assume stands for IMatch > thumbnail). > > Here are the resultant sizes for the IMT files: > > 160x160: 8,466 KB > 200x200: 10,569 KB > 300x300: 18,980 KB > > So if I extrapolate these to 10,000 photos, I end up with: > > 160x160: 65,173 KB > 200x200: 81,363 KB > 300x300: 146,112 KB > > TEST #2: My next (and most important) consideration was ergonomics > (or how does it look on the screen). > > Let me start at the largest thumbnail size... > > At 300x300, I was only able to fit three thumbnails across the > screen comfortably. Although the thumbnails looked great, I would > end up getting carpal tunnel from all of the scrolling I would have > to do. I then reduced the zoom ratio to 75% (which makes the > thumbnails 225x225), and I was able to fit four thumbnails across > the screen, which wasn't too bad. If you further reduce the zoom > ratio to 50% (which makes the thumbnails 150x150), I could fit five > thumbnails across. But IMHO, if you are going to consistently > reduce the size of the thumbnails by using the zoom ratio, then you > might as well save yourself some disk space and start with the > smaller size in the first place. > > At 160x160, I was able to fit five thumbnails across the screen > comfortably, but there was some unused space on the right side of > the screen. Why waste screen space? So I moved to the next size up. > > I created another test database using the 180x180 size. But this > time I only used a few dozen photos. At 180x180, I was able to fit > five thumbnails across the screen comfortably, but this time there > was no unused screen space and the thumbs were larger. I decided > that this was the best thumb size for my situation. > > TEST #3: > > Since I settled on 180x180 as my thumbnail size, I decided to try a > few tests on the Thumbnail Quality. > > Once again, I created three test databases: The first with quality > set to its lowest setting, the second with quality set to its mid- > level setting (which is lower than the default setting), and the > third with quality set to its highest setting. > > I kept all other settings/options the same for these tests. Once > again, the only file that changed size was the .IMT file. > > Here are the resultant sizes for the IMT files: > > Lowest quality: 2,158 KB > Mid-level quality: 6,363 KB > Highest quantity: 16,877 KB > > I could barely tell a difference between the mid-level and high- > level quality. But I could definitely tell a difference at the low- > level. > > SUMMARY: > > - Create test databases using various thumbnail sizes and quality to > determine what works best for you > > - I ended up choosing the 180x180 thumbnail size at the mid-level > (~50%) quality setting. As I said at the beginning, I have a 19" > monitor set at 1280 x 1024. The thumbnail size that you choose > should depend on your settings (as well as your eyesight). > > IMATCH RECOMMENDATIONS: > > - Allow the user to change their thumbnail setting once the database > is created. I understand that it will probably take a long time to > do this operation, but is better than having to recreate the whole > database itself. > > - Allow the user to choose the zoom ratio (via the Thumb Lens) for > thumbnail size. If a user chooses a larger than needed thumbnail > size (such as 300x300), they currently only have the 50% and 75% > options. It would be better if they were allowed to type in a zoom > ratio from 0-400%. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imatchuserforum/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/imatchuserforum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/