Re: [Inkscape-devel] Yesterday was SMIL and today is Mesh Gradients

On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 11:03 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
> Hi Tavm
> So should we encourage tutorials that use Mesh Gradients in Inkscape
> and publicize them through our website?
> 

That would definitely help. The more people use meshes the better...
but it won't help if they are ultimately rasterized (used as a PNG
rather than an SVG) on the web. The browsers have "use" counters. We
probably need to offer users the ability to add a JavaScript "polyfill"
to their files that use meshes.


> --Victor Westmann
> 
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Tavmjong Bah <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 21:05 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
> > > Hi fellow inkscapers,
> > > I was amazed to read that inkscape already has Mesh Gradients
> > > (since version 0.92) just like Adobe Illustrator. Illustrator got
> > > this exact same feature in the version 8 (released in 1998). 20
> > > years ago.
> > > 
> > > But it seems that Mesh Gradients will be removed from the SVG 2.0
> > > specification. My question is WHY?
> > 
> > Nobody else has implemented the SVG version of mesh gradients.
> > Adobe is interested but won't proceed until at least one browser
> > has implemented it. Firefox was interested a few years ago. These
> > things often depend on who is working on SVG at the moment.
> > To remain in the final publication, there must be at least two
> > independent implementations... with one being in a browser. The
> > pragmatic solution to getting SVG 2 finalized was to push meshes
> > (along with hatches) to SVG 2.1.
> > > That made me really sad and wondering: isn't there anything we
> > > can do to prevent that from happening? Can we make a petition or
> > > talk to Mozilla/Chrome/Opera/Vivaldi browser so they can
> > > implement this and this feature, as soon as it gets traction, to
> > > be kept in the 2.0 spec of SVG technology?
> > 
> > I'm not sure a petition would have any effect at this point. SVG 2
> > itself is in a precarious state. The working group is out of
> > charter at the moment and it is not clear the charter will be
> > reinstated. We are waiting to hear. A petition wouldn't hurt if it
> > had enough signatures. Better would be to get lots of content on
> > the web using meshes.
> > > Ideas anyone? Is this too unrealistic or we can do something
> > > about it?
> > > 
> > > I remember google chrome almost removed SMIL feature from Google
> > > Chrome but then the feature got traction and started being used
> > > more and more... so they kept it.
> > 
> > Actually, Google was using SMIL in one if its own products (the
> > right hand not knowing what the left hand was doing).
> > Tav
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