Re: Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

kb,
no starch press sells the book, "the book of inkscape, the definitive gude
to the free graphics editor" by dmitry kirsanov. he is a core inkscape
developer, author and graphic designer, specializing in website and logo
design.

here's a review. https://wordpress.com/post/wdalford.wordpress.com/5

cheers,
dwain

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:53 PM, K B <[email protected]> wrote:

> C R:
> I guess I was looking to do some real simple basic stuff and came into a
> very robust program with many bells and whistles that made it more
> complicated
> and harder to learn.  Wished they had a "Lite version" so I could get up
> and running
> right away.  I am not a professional illustrator, just want to create
> fairly simple Line Designs.
>
> Ken
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:42 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We are working hard to make it better and easier and more intuitive to
>> use. You can certainly help our efforts by donation to the project - every
>> little bit helps.
>>
>> In the meantime it's probably easier to learn Inkscape's quirks and just
>> work around them for now. I've been using Inkscape as a professional
>> designer for over 7 years now, and once you get the hang of it, it's not so
>> bad. A lot of bugs have been fixed since I first started using it, and lots
>> of new features added. Mostly I'm grateful for devs who have helped and
>> continue to help solve problems, and help where I can, and for community
>> members who help users and make videos on how to use Inkscape.
>>
>> Your feedback also helps, so thanks for bringing it to our attention!
>>
>> -C
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 10:27 K B, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Brynn/CR:
>>>
>>> I agree with you 100%.  I can still remember when I first used it; it was
>>> so frustrating!  It did not preform like you think it would.  I also was
>>> just trying
>>> to use the eraser, but it did not erase part of the image like I thought
>>> it would.
>>> If I had a lot of extra money, I would probably just start using Adobe's
>>> Illustrator.
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:48 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape
>>>> should never draw an invisible object anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Particularly,
>>>>
>>>> 1. If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to
>>>> the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white
>>>> without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error.
>>>>
>>>> 2. If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to "none",
>>>> Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default : black.
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour of
>>>> Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having to
>>>> change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw
>>>> something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick
>>>> up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done,
>>>> then choose another colour when you want a different one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -C
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Brynn:
>>>>> Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix.  Since Inkscape is free,
>>>>> maybe the creators
>>>>> are not very motivated to fix everything about  it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would
>>>>> have enough money to
>>>>> pay programmers to fix it and make it better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing lists
>>>>>> some time
>>>>>> ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the tools
>>>>>> set for
>>>>>> Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind of
>>>>>> utter
>>>>>> confusion among new users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it
>>>>>> into their
>>>>>> own different project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a reasonable
>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>> See this bug report:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/
>>>>>> inkscape/+bug/1704777
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, perhaps
>>>>>> we could
>>>>>> get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this type
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> headache for new users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much,
>>>>>> brynn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: K B
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white
>>>>>> background
>>>>>> with white inside the circle).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares.  Two
>>>>>> squares
>>>>>> are on the rectangle and the other two are outside.  So, I go into:
>>>>>> Edit,
>>>>>> Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes!   Crazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anybody know what I should do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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