Re: Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

There's a bug report for avoiding new users making invisible objects because of 
the last used style.  I shared it in my first message in this thread.  This is 
that report:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777

However, I've gotten a bit lost in the technical discussions, so I'm not sure if 
the topic is still on this same solution as proposed in the above report.  So 
fwiw  :-)

brynn

-----Original Message----- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

This suggestion sounds reasonable to me.

Mark, do we already have a bug report for it, where this can be laid out
in detail?

Maren

Am 10.09.2018 um 11:56 schrieb Mark Crutch:
> I often push the boundaries of Inkscape and SVG, in order to hide Easter
> eggs in my comics, or when researching my Full Circle Magazine
> tutorials. But even I can't think of a time when I've ever intentionally
> *drawn* an invisible object.
>
> There are plenty of times when I've drawn an object and then
> intentionally made it invisible (e.g. for text on a path or, most
> recently, when creating a SMIL animation path for my next tutorial), but
> I always draw them as visible objects first.
>
> There are too many ways that an object could be "invisible" to catch all
> cases, but a simple rule of thumb might be that if both the fill and
> stroke are set to "none", have an alpha value of zero, or the object's
> opacity is zero, that the tool's default style is used. Combined with
> the earlier proposal about reverting to the tool's own style on
> start-up, this would lead to the following behaviour:
>
> 1) On starting Inkscape, creating a new image, or loading an existing
> one, all tools are set to "tool's own style".
> 2) While working on a document, "last used style" is used (unless the
> prefs are set to always use "tool's own style").
> 3) When a drawing tool is selected and the drawn object would be
> invisible (based on the heuristics above, and perhaps some others), the
> "last used style" is modified to match the "tool's own style".
>
> It still wouldn't catch all cases - consider an alpha that's set close
> to, but not quite zero - but I think an approach like this would help
> new users whilst not particularly getting in the way of experienced users.
>
>
> Mark
>
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