Re: name, logo and HIG

Lauris Kaplinski <[email protected]> Mon, 01 Mar 2004 00:13:57 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.graphics.sodipodi
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello!

Well, sodipodi name has (maybe) one good property - it seems
to be a bit different from 'mainstream' so it may be easier
to memorize (compared with glade/blade/gaim/ style things).
But this probably depends on language...

Actually yes, there is 'other' sodipodi icon. Jakub drew it
back when sodipodi was part of (imaginary) gnome-office. It
probably has all the good properties of HIG icon, but for me
it seems too 'office'. It may become a problem, if you have
handful of apps, whose icons are all paper + some tool, they
become indistinguishable, especially if there are many drawing
apps (paper + pencils, paper + brushes, paper + colors and so
on...) So I decided, that it will be used only, if sodipodi
acts as 'part of gnome office'. As nothing happened in
gnome-office front after that, the squirrel was the one, that
remained in use.

Best wishes,
Lauris Kaplinski

Pat Suwalski kirjutas P, 29.02.2004 kell 21:12:
> Lars Boelman wrote:
> > Because those names are non-descriptive, they are considered 'bad' names 
> > by the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines (which I quickly scanned a few 
> > weeks ago). The HIG also mention that the logo (in particular as an 
> > icon) of the Sodipodi application does not provide any information about 
> > what the application does. I can only say that though I like the 
> > Sodipodi name and logo, the HIG are correct about both. Good thing the 
> > HIG also mentions that when someone has learned the meaning of 
> > something, the mentioned arguments are not valid anymore.
> 
> You are correct, of course. But at the same time, none of the other 
> programs you mentioned follow convention either.
> 
> Let's look at icons:
> - Gimp: Wilbur (A dog-looking thing)
> - EoG: An eyeball with a wizard's hat
> - Anjuta: a horse
> 
> And yet, two out of three of these programs are part of the core 2.6 
> Gnome distribution.
> 
> So really, I think it's completely up to Lauris on this one. He named it 
> the way he felt like naming it. He came up with a really cool Native 
> American-style design for the icon. He aims for desktop-agnosticity. He 
> need not follow the HIG any more than Gimp. It's still on my todo list 
> to HIGify the application *behaviour* a little bit, but that's a 
> separate issue. Behaviour is (a) more important, and (b) is expected to 
> be more uniform.
> 
> Now, in Gentoo, the packager actually heeded the HIG, where Sodipodi is 
> actually used as a 'bad example', and includes the icon that the HIG 
> recommended for it instead of the squirrel.
> 
> On an unrelated note, whenever I think of the squirrel, I always thing 
> "Yaskifo." I have no clue why.




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