Re: Re: about your concept

On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 08:07:26AM +0200, JP Dinger wrote:
> > That's not how it works. If *you* want
> > something, then *you* must do the work.
> 
> Of course. It is still good to bounce ideas off like-minded and
> -interested people before writing lots of code that may not even work in
> theory. Which is why a discussion list is useful. Which, in turn, is why
> being rude on it is not helping anybody except with getting frustrated.

Impressive form of selective myopia you have there.

> > > So you're saying that Y-devel is not a list for what you consider the
> > > clueful but more of what you think of as a courtesy to people you don't
> > > really deem worthy to talk with. Something like a pacifier for the
> > > wannabees to be ignored.
> > 
> > You said that. And you pulled it out of thin air, it appears apropos
> > of nothing.
> 
> If ``it all but was literally in your last post'' is your definition of
> ``out of thin air'', then yes. The odd hyperbole is inconsequential to
> the point I tried to drive home.

More fiction. Are you actually reading anything I write?

> It'd be useful and social to spread that knowledge.

That's what it comes down to really. You think that my purpose in life
should be to improve your lot. I have absolutely no interest in you,
and it will not be useful to me to educate you. I am not a fucking
hippie, or some sort of charity worker.

> > > > Mark's project report (which is *not* a thesis;
> > > 
> > > Someone called it that and it stuck.
> > 
> > Just because people act like sheep does not make them right.

> I took whatever name was at hand for the thing and got the point across.
> Despite you not liking the name used. You seem to have missed ample
> opportunity to explain people the wrongness of their ways, until now.

No, I don't believe I've ever missed one. Unfortunately some people
insist on putting daft things like that on websites where there's no
easy way to correct them.

> I'm open to suggestions for a new and improved name for what is, if not
> design document, at least great marketing material for the Y project.
> Any takers?

The one used on both Mark's and DoC's websites, and by me just a few
lines above. Notice how these are universally consistent in how they
refer to it, and yet some people don't seem to be reading the words on
the screen.

And it's not marketing material and I shudder to think of it being
used that way. This document was written for precisely one purpose: to
get Mark a good grade. First and foremost it has to sound convincing
and impressive. It does *not* have to be in touch with reality; the
targets are university professors.

Trying to read it as anything else, especially as a thesis (which is
quite the opposite), is quite fatally wrong.

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