Re: Re: Re: Familiar on Zaurus 5600

Carl Thomas wrote:

> I'm familiar with the procedures for the IPKG update and upgrade and 
> have run them both as per the WIKI instructions, but after that, nothing 
> will install. 
>  
> Half the time, trying to reach the Angstrom site for the package fails 
> when trying to download the packed from the PDA directly. 

I have not been active with PDAs for a while but since I seem to be the 
last subscriber left on the list I'll try to respond.

- sometimes I had problems bringing the network up on the PDA failed 
until the usb0 interface was taken down first: "ifdown usb0" or 
"ifconfig usb0 down" then plug in network card. But I guess this was not 
your problem.

- sometimes the name server was not working properly, preventing contact 
to the feed-servers. I tried to enter the line 192.168.1.1 (my router) 
into /etc/resolv.conf, and if that did not help, I entered the ip of the 
feed-server into /etc/hosts. The last trick sometimes helped me so I 
could at least make an "ipkg update" and install some more programs and 
modules over the net.

> Even after the package is available via download or on a SD or CF card, 
> the installation itself fails.  This happens with any OPIE program I 
> have tried so far.   

No experience of that. But ff you are low on flash space you can use the 
ipkg option to install to the SD card instead of main memory.

> I have even used an earlier package of Angstrom and have manually 
> installed the libraries needed for a specific program and then the 
> program itself. 

So asking ipkg or package manager to install dependencies too at the 
same time did not work?

> Even though everything appears to install properly, the program itself 
> is not added to the application page and manually adding anything to the 
> application page is denied due to some right issues, even though I 
> supposedly have full rights. 

Full rights means you are root, right? If you are, then there should be 
no permission issues.

But with Opie the choice of programs is rather limited. Or was, it may 
be better now, I don't know. I mostly stayed with X11-based systems. 
Mixing the two is not easily accomplished. You did not try to install an 
X11 program on Opie I hope.

> Like I stated before, Angstrom just seems to have too many problems and 
> absolutely no support. 

I haven't noticed that. It's changing fast, yes, but you don't have to 
pick the bleeding edge. But I think those guys are incredibly active, 
judging from what they have accomplished and describe on their web 
portal. I have Angstrom running on an Akita, and Opie and GPE on some 
Ipaqs. I definitely see Angstrom as a better choice right now. Familiar 
was fine but nothing is happening on that front anymore it seems.

> If Familiar has moved onto more modern PDAs like the HPs, then I guess I 
> will have to as well. 

Zauruses should still be fine tho everything old has its limitations. 
Actually Angstrom is better adapted to the Zauri, with kernels compiled 
to handle the software math for these machines.

And some HP Ipaqs are even older but still run nicely.


M.
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