Re: New install of OZ 3.5.4 on SL5500, where is qpe-base 1.5?

On 10/20/06, Roland Roberts <roland-jSlRgMHOlYjrZ44/[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> "Justin" == Justin Patrin <[email protected]> writes:
>
>     Justin> On 10/19/06, Michael Rozdoba <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     >> Justin Patrin wrote:
>
>     >> > On 10/19/06, Roland Roberts <roland-jSlRgMHOlYjrZ44/[email protected]> wrote:
>     >> > 3) switch back to the Sharp ROM so you can use these apps
>
>     >> Hardly an ideal solution & not one that says much for OZ.
>
>     Justin> It depends on what you want. If you want to use the hancom
>     Justin> apps then you have to either use the Sharp rom or try the
>     Justin> below. If you use Open Source there's a little more risk
>     Justin> involved. You need to find what you need and possibly
>     Justin> contribute to make it work or make it better.
>
> Is there JVM for OZ?  How can I run those applets that used to run with
> Jeod?

AFAIK no one has added a JVM to OE yet, so no it doesn't have one.
Patches welcome.

> I also hae a copy of PSC (Personal Sky Charts) that ran with an
> earlier version of OZ, I might be able to get the owner to rebuild a
> copy.  But if not, I'll probably be going back to an old version of OZ
> or the Sharp ROM
>
> With the hardware orphaned, if the software gets orphaned, too, then
> there is little incentive to keep the device except as a paperweight.
> I'm *very* disappointed because I was going to switch from using my
> Newton which is quite a bit older than the Zaurus (and still working
> quite well).

OZ is not orphaned. It's going on strong and will become part of the
angstrom project when that gets up to a stable release. It's already
had some alpha releases. Of course, angstrom totally burns the bridges
to the Sharp ROM. It won't be compatible in any way with any of those
old programs.

Please put your blame in the correct place. The people who made the
apps you want to use have orphaned *their* software and not attempted
to build them for OZ.

> But OZ's PIM apps are inferior (even the Sharp ones)

Inferior in what way? Have you tried kopi? Have you tried GPE?

Again, patches welcome (or even bb files for other Linux programs that
you like better).

> and
> now I find that packages only a couple of years old won't run with the
> newer OS.
>

Again, this is the fault of the people you bought this software from.
OZ is happy to build Open Source programs but we can't rebuild
proprietary programs and attempting to keep compatibility so that
they'll run is not only an uphill battle but holds us back from moving
in more exciting directions. OZ is now much faster, more stable, and
far more customizable than the Sharp ROM or earlier OZ releases. This
is because we've moved on while Sharp sits back in the stone ages.

I'll mention again that this is an Open Source project and is in no
way supported by Sharp. We're doing this in our free time because
Sharp won't support the devices we love. If you can find Linux
programs which do what you want but are not in OZ/OE, then *let us
know* and we'll try to get them in.

Once more, you're welcome to build your own image without softfloat
and try to get your programs to work again. This is the beauty of Open
Source.

Lastly, I'll mention the Cacko ROM. It's a modified version of the
Sharp ROM and so can still run programs written for the Sharp ROM, but
it's been updated heavily. I don't use it, but then I find the Sharp
ROM to be.....ancient and ill thought out.

-- 
Justin Patrin

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