Re: New install of OZ 3.5.4 on SL5500, where is qpe-base 1.5?

On Friday 20 October 2006 08:51, Roland Roberts wrote:
> >>>>> "Justin" == Justin Patrin <[email protected]> writes:
>
>     Justin> On 10/19/06, Michael Rozdoba <[email protected]> wrote:
>     >> Justin Patrin wrote:
>     >> > On 10/19/06, Roland Roberts <roland-jSlRgMHOlYjrZ44/[email protected]> wrote:
>     >> > 3) switch back to the Sharp ROM so you can use these apps
>     >>
>     >> Hardly an ideal solution & not one that says much for OZ.
>
>     Justin> It depends on what you want. If you want to use the
> hancom Justin> apps then you have to either use the Sharp rom or try
> the Justin> below. If you use Open Source there's a little more risk
> Justin> involved. You need to find what you need and possibly Justin>
> contribute to make it work or make it better.
>
> Is there JVM for OZ?  How can I run those applets that used to run
> with Jeod?

The simple answer is no.  While there are JVMs available for the 5500, I 
don't believe any of them work with software written for the Jeode JVM.  
And that JVM won't run with OZ due to the hardfloat/softfloat issue.

> I also hae a copy of PSC (Personal Sky Charts) that ran 
> with an earlier version of OZ, I might be able to get the owner to
> rebuild a copy.  But if not, I'll probably be going back to an old
> version of OZ or the Sharp ROM

Same answer.  I just took a look at their site, and the description of 
the app makes me think you'll get bad results if you use the 
sharp-compat-libs.  You can try, though.

>
> With the hardware orphaned, if the software gets orphaned, too, then
> there is little incentive to keep the device except as a paperweight.
> I'm *very* disappointed because I was going to switch from using my
> Newton which is quite a bit older than the Zaurus (and still working
> quite well).  But OZ's PIM apps are inferior (even the Sharp ones)
> and now I find that packages only a couple of years old won't run
> with the newer OS.

I'm also an ex-Newton user, and I haven't found anything even remotely 
like it.  While I certainly appreciate my 5500, it's a totally 
different beast than the Newton.  I wrote everything I needed to have 
with me on my Newton, but I mostly use the Zaurus as a password manager 
and portable calendar.  I'm using KO/pi and KA/pi for calendar and 
addressbook, respectively, since it's ridiculously easy to sync against 
Kontact on my desktop (KDE 3.5.5).

Honestly, from what you've described, you'll probably be better served 
by using the Sharp ROM or one of it's derivatives.


Oh, and your earlier questions:

> So...the big questions I have are:
>
>   1. where is qpe-base 1.5.0 or a suitable workaround?

You won't need this.  If you run across a package that gives an error 
that it isn't installed, use the -force-depends switch to ipk or check 
the Force Depends checkbox in the Package Manager options.

>
>   2. Any idea why neither Hancom nore Jeod apps run?  Is it
>      the same as 1?

Hardfloat/softfloat.  I understand that even with sharp-compat-libs, 
Hancom Sheet is useless because it calculates things incorrectly.  I 
have not tried it myself, though.

>
>   3. Is the shutdown/susped hang a known problem?  If not,
>      where do I report it?

It seems spurious.  I hardly ever see it anymore, and I'm using the 
stock 3.5.4 kernel, with root on a SanDisk 1GB SD card and the 64/0 
memory split.  I've since started building my own feeds from the .dev 
branch of openembedded to keep up with software.
>
>   4. Why does the clock reset on reboot/hang?

This doesn't seem to happen to me either, anymore.  I installed the 
timezones-america package and configured my home city.



P.S.  If you want to get excited about something, check out Einstein: 
<http://www.kallisys.com/newton/einstein/>.  It's not usable yet 
(there's a 2-3 minute delay between screen tap and response), but the 
fact that it runs at all is amazing.

-- 
F. Edward Barrett - [email protected]
"Hold on to your hats, friends. Your DNA could be one worm away from 
entering the global computing grid. But at least you'll have a really 
fast PC for playing Doom 78." -- 
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/15/gates_sc_keynote/>

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