Re: New install of OZ 3.5.4 on SL5500, where is qpe-base 1.5?

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Justin Patrin schreef:
> On 10/20/06, Roland Roberts <roland-jSlRgMHOlYjrZ44/[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Justin" == Justin Patrin <[email protected]> writes:
>>     Justin> On 10/19/06, Michael Rozdoba <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     >> Justin Patrin wrote:
>>
>>     >> > On 10/19/06, Roland Roberts <roland-jSlRgMHOlYjrZ44/[email protected]> wrote:
>>     >> > 3) switch back to the Sharp ROM so you can use these apps
>>
>>     >> Hardly an ideal solution & not one that says much for OZ.
>>
>>     Justin> It depends on what you want. If you want to use the hancom
>>     Justin> apps then you have to either use the Sharp rom or try the
>>     Justin> below. If you use Open Source there's a little more risk
>>     Justin> involved. You need to find what you need and possibly
>>     Justin> contribute to make it work or make it better.
>>
>> Is there JVM for OZ?  How can I run those applets that used to run with
>> Jeod?
> 
> AFAIK no one has added a JVM to OE yet, so no it doesn't have one.
> Patches welcome.

Apart from jamvm, sablevm, kaffe and gcj-x present in OE?


> 
>> I also hae a copy of PSC (Personal Sky Charts) that ran with an
>> earlier version of OZ, I might be able to get the owner to rebuild a
>> copy.  But if not, I'll probably be going back to an old version of OZ
>> or the Sharp ROM
>>
>> With the hardware orphaned, if the software gets orphaned, too, then
>> there is little incentive to keep the device except as a paperweight.
>> I'm *very* disappointed because I was going to switch from using my
>> Newton which is quite a bit older than the Zaurus (and still working
>> quite well).
> 
> OZ is not orphaned. It's going on strong and will become part of the
> angstrom project when that gets up to a stable release. It's already
> had some alpha releases. Of course, angstrom totally burns the bridges
> to the Sharp ROM. It won't be compatible in any way with any of those
> old programs.
> 
> Please put your blame in the correct place. The people who made the
> apps you want to use have orphaned *their* software and not attempted
> to build them for OZ.
> 
>> But OZ's PIM apps are inferior (even the Sharp ones)
> 
> Inferior in what way? Have you tried kopi? Have you tried GPE?
> 
> Again, patches welcome (or even bb files for other Linux programs that
> you like better).
> 
>> and
>> now I find that packages only a couple of years old won't run with the
>> newer OS.
>>
> 
> Again, this is the fault of the people you bought this software from.
> OZ is happy to build Open Source programs but we can't rebuild
> proprietary programs and attempting to keep compatibility so that
> they'll run is not only an uphill battle but holds us back from moving
> in more exciting directions. OZ is now much faster, more stable, and
> far more customizable than the Sharp ROM or earlier OZ releases. This
> is because we've moved on while Sharp sits back in the stone ages.
> 
> I'll mention again that this is an Open Source project and is in no
> way supported by Sharp. We're doing this in our free time because
> Sharp won't support the devices we love. If you can find Linux
> programs which do what you want but are not in OZ/OE, then *let us
> know* and we'll try to get them in.
> 
> Once more, you're welcome to build your own image without softfloat
> and try to get your programs to work again. This is the beauty of Open
> Source.
> 
> Lastly, I'll mention the Cacko ROM. It's a modified version of the
> Sharp ROM and so can still run programs written for the Sharp ROM, but
> it's been updated heavily. I don't use it, but then I find the Sharp
> ROM to be.....ancient and ill thought out.
> 

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