Re: QT/E 2.3.12 built

Am 21.01.2006 um 22:18 schrieb Lorn Potter:


>> Well it is more than motivation: Opie was founded to be Qtopia
>> compatible (which
>> it is! regardless on what lorn claims).
> heh.. i suppose it depends on what your definition of 'compatible' is.

Well I can compile Opie against a Qtopia libqpe, I can compile Opie
against the Opie version of libqpe and let it run on Qtopia... that
is pretty compatible to me.... well just look at our library directory
and you will see it yourself... anyway

>> compatible? Is that enough?
> No, Qtopia Core is Qt Embedded rebranded.
Well if we want to be Qtopia compatible and we use Qtopia Core
we are already compatible?! Or why is Qtopia PDA more Qtopia than
the Qtopia Core?



> Seems you have already decided that anything qtopia is not up to  
> your quality
> standards, you diss it so much, I am beginning to wonder about your
> intentions and if you are really a GPE develop in disguise.
>

1.) In University with my Software Engineering experience my quality  
requirement grew.
       e.g. every code I write nowadays is almos t98% covered with  
useful test
       cases, planted with invariants and specification. This is  
nothing Qtopia
       let alone GPE offers. GPE is not even written in a Object  
Orientated Language...

2.) Where did I mention GPE at all? It is C, no one sane writes  
Frameworks
       in C any more. M$ stopped it, Apple never did it, the founder  
of GNOME
       recognized it...

3.) I have the impression that your Marketing Group won the battle  
against your
       developers. This means you are tight on schedule and need to meet
       tight deadlines. This is like a "Death March" project. So  
development
       must be cheap, it must be fast. This is the basic Software  
Engineering
       triangle. The result is if you need it fast and cheap, your  
quality will
       suffer. So this is basic Software Engineering, nothing against  
TT or
       Qtopia. I love Qt (and Trolltech) because they always cared  
more for
       the quality then the time.
       On Qtopia you have different constraints. I hope for longterm  
success
       of Linux, this is why Qtopia quality is so important. If you  
scare customers
       away Free Software/Linux will not win and you will not make  
any money.
       I really hope that the same thinking you spent on Qt will be  
spend on
       Qtopia.And I hope that you have talented staff to create a  
great platform
       with good documentation and a high quality. And I hope that  
your leaders...


>
> The difference is this. Qt is an widget toolkit to build software.  
> Qtopia is a
> software product, which is why Trolltech does not provide a tech  
> preview.

Sorry this does not make sense to me:
1.) Qt is a Toolkit, QtSql, QtSQL, QtXML do not require widgets
2.) Qt and Qtopia are both Software Products
3.) So Teambuilder, QSA and Qtopia are in the same category? Or is
       Qtopia inbetween Teambuilder and Qt?

please clarify?!

>
> You are also free to develop a new platform.

Well it is not that I want, but it is that Qtopia is a Software  
Product and not
a platform.
I hope your devs refuses the pressure and create a kicking ass Qtopia
Platform that meets modern Quality Standards and is like Qt state of  
the art....


kind regards
	h.

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