Re: opieII

Dan Williams <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.handhelds.opie.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I think we need to see what Qtopia 4 offers as a base for the new Opie before we can come up with any definite feature list.  One thing we have discussed at a high level have been the desire to focus on fewer base applications, but make them better, less bugs, etc.  One shortcoming of Opie I was that someone would join the project, commit a new application and then disappear.  We ended up with lots of applications which were 90% complete and unmaintained.  So I think we need to limit the scope.  But let's see what we're starting with and then start the feature discussion.

Also, it's not that Opie 1 sucks or anything, it is just that we are moving forward with a new base.  Not unlike KDE is going through going from v3 to v4.  We really need to be using a more recent software base than Qt/E 2.3.x, and that transition will take time.

Dan 'drw' Williams

----- Original Message ----
From: Dmitriy Korovkin <[email protected]>
To: Paul Sokolovsky <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:23:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Opie-devel] opieII

Paul, I'm fully agree with you.
Lorn, do you have any information about features that OPIE II should have?
I don't think it's a good idea just to say "opie sucks, opie ii rules, 
so you'd better think that opie is now based on qtopia 4". This will 
push the rest of the OPIE users far far away from dealing with anything 
named OPIE.

Dmitriy



Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> Hello Lorn,
>
> Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:52:23 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>   
>> Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello Lorn,
>>>
>>> Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:37:48 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Ok, let's see.
>>>>> But I couldn't find it in linuxtogo.org project list. Will you drop me 
>>>>> the link?
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/opie/
>>>>         
>>>   Er, if it's called OpieII, why it's project name is "opie"?
>>>       
>
>   
>> OpieII is just the name to distinguish it from Opie 1. Opie being the 
>> project name, because I assume it will be named Opie. :)
>>     
>
>
>   Sorry, but you asked for objections, and here it is: are there
> grounds for new product and project focused around *its* development
> (you told that "old" OPIE (opie0 ?) remains where it was) to be named
> just the same as old product/project hosted in another place?
>
>   I suggest that you either disclose your plans, or do favor to users
> and don't confuse them by calling two pretty different things by the same
> name (and again, I base on your previous claims that OpieII won't be
> compatible with OPIE, in the sense that all application will require
> not just patching, but rewriting from scratch).
>
>   If what I write is not relevant, then again, can you please provide
> more detailed feature, development, and release planning info. Saying
> that it is based on qtopia 4.2 is saying too little for many people,
> I'm afraid.
>
>
>
>   
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