Re: opie trademark

Hi Lorn,

I understand that you are upset, but you are pushing the limits of acceptable 
behavior, please see:

   http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/CodeofConduct
   

--George 

On Wednesday 30 May 2007 11:36 pm, Lorn Potter wrote:
> On Thursday 31 May 2007 11:49, George France wrote:
> > Hello Everad,
> >
> > The objective of the Handhelds.org, Inc.’s (Handhelds.org) trademark
> > policy is to encourage widespread use of the Handhelds.org trademarks by
> > the Handhelds.org community while controlling that use in order to avoid
> > confusion on the part of Handhelds.org users and the general public, to
> > maintain the value of the image and reputation of the trademarks and to
> > protect them from inappropriate or unauthorized use.
>
> except those trademarks are actually owned by  those projects being HOSTED
> by handhelds.org, which you had no right to try and register. NOT by
> handhelds.org inc.
>
> > Please see the trademark usage policy:
> > 	http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/TrademarkPolicy
> >
> > I am not a lawyer, but it is my understanding the "opie" trademark has
> > always been legal.  Just like when you copyright a work, it does not have
> > to registered with the US Copyright Office to be valid.
> >
> > The trademarks were registered on advise of legal counsel to give more
> > public notice, make them easier to defend and make them more consistant
> > with the international community (in many countries only registered marks
> > are valid).
>
> public notice should have been given to those projects effected, prior to
> your submitting them for registration.
>
> see my previous posts about the hosting part.
>
> > From my point of view, the trademark policy has worked well.  It has
> > stopped one self declared leader from using the opie trademark with out
> > the community consensus.
>
> oh, you mean me?
>
> You speak of me as if  I am not a member of handhelds.org for the last 5
> years and that I am not here.
>
> Actually, your policy failed miserably. It has pissed off _many_ opie
> developers, many of whom are not vocal publically, which are scrambling and
> thinking WTF is handhelds.org thinking?
>  It has generated bad publicity and feelings for handhelds.org and those
> involved.
>
>
> A consensus _was_ reached. Had you even done some research about the
> subject, you would have found at least the right people to consent.
>
> You could have at least sent an email asking the people who's copyright
> exists in Opie about whom actually owns "Opie" and whether or not we want a
> registered trademark..
>
> > I am surprised that nobody has asked what would happen if there was an
> > opie community consensus on this issue and the above reference policy was
> > followed. The odds are extremely high that  a license would be granted.
>
> see above.
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