Re: opie trademark

George,
	The first time you wrote to me about the possibility of assigning me the 
trademark was this past Sunday. Unless you are talking about me being 
interested in another offer (which I have no record of), what happened in the 
4 days between that and the "nothing can be done" I got yesterday? The only 
thing I can think of is Lawyers. And that's fine. If Lawyers are to blame 
then we can blame the death of the project on them.

Benjamin Long

On Friday 01 June 2007 1:47:31 pm George France wrote:
> Weeks ago, when I first contacted you to see if you where interested, there
> was a world of possibilities.  Between then and the time you got back to
> me, lots of ugly things have been said that need to be addressed.  That
> world of possibilities is gone.  :-(
>
> --George
>
> On Friday 01 June 2007 11:41 am, Benjamin Long wrote:
> > George,
> >
> > 	I don't see how Lorn has 'torpedoed' the trademark proposal. The
> > response I got from both you and Lorn was positive, but you were
> > concerned about what your lawyers would say about it due to ongoing legal
> > action. Later you emailed "Sorry, Benjamin, nothing can be done at this
> > time with out making the trademark issue more cloudy", which I took as
> > meaning the lawyers downed the idea. Please explain.
> >
> > Benjamin Long
> >
> > On Friday 01 June 2007 8:53:52 am George France wrote:
> > > Lorn,
> > >
> > > You have been complaining and trying to upset folks for almost two
> > > weeks now. I have let this go on long enough  There are lots of
> > > solutions.  I and others even proposed several of them:
> > >
> > > 	1)  follow the trademark policy and get a license.
> > > 	2) I initiated talks with Benjamin Long about the possibility of
> > > assigning the opie tradename to him which you torpedoed.
> > > 	3) change the name of the opieII project.
> > >
> > > It appears to me that you are only making posts to stir up trouble with
> > > no intent of being constructive or collaborative.   You are about to be
> > > banned from this mailings list.  It is up to you.  You can be part of
> > > the solution or you can try to keep the hostility going.  Your choice.
> > >
> > > --George
> > >
> > > On Thursday 31 May 2007 10:50 pm, Lorn Potter wrote:
> > > > On Friday 01 June 2007 12:27, Erik Hovland wrote:
> > > > > > Handhelds.org already owned them, before the registration.  Try
> > > > > > again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Making the move of actually registering, making the application
> > > > > w/out saying anything publicly is a breach of conduct. I am not
> > > > > disputing ownership.
> > > >
> > > > I am.
> > > >
> > > > hh.org is a project hosting service. (check my previous link to the
> > > > archive where it plainly states, "projects hosted at handhelds.org").
> > > > This is what all of the Opie developers I have spoken to know it to
> > > > be. Opie is not the exclusive ownership of the Familiar distribution.
> > > >
> > > > I do not think Benjamin Long (bipolar - who actually started the opie
> > > > project at  hh.org) ever gave hh.org ownership over the project name
> > > > "Opie", nor did anyone else associated with the project. I certainly
> > > > hope he gets in touch with the FSF, who is already looking into this
> > > > latter.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently, merely having your project hosted at hh.org is enough
> > > > loose the ownership of your projects name without notice.
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