Re: How I moved from DateBk to iOS
"hyperscheduler" <hyperscheduler-/[email protected]> Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:11:42 -0000
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Sad but true. I mean, I am not even sure if the iPhone will search back through AS MUCH AS 1 year of data/records. Therefore, I recommend the following plan: 1) Sync your iPhone resident calendar app to Google Calendar (I guess that this is handled through Exchange but I am not sure). 2) Install the Pimlical Desktop version that allows HotSyncing with a Palm OS handheld. 3) Sync your Pimlical Desktop with Google Calendar, so that any changes that you made on your iPhone or that you made within Google Calendar will go inside/populate/sync with your Pimlical Desktop calendar. 4) Once per week on Sunday nights, execute the following: a) Open Pimlical Desktop and sync with Google Calendar. b) After Pimlical Desktop absorbs all of your week's worth of Google Calendaring and iPhone calendaring--that is, after Pimlical is synced with Google Calendar and hence is now up to date and current--perform a HotSync between Pimlical Desktop and your Palm OS handheld. c) Place your Palm OS handheld in your purse or briefcase. 5) During the week, whenever you need to examine your calendar for an entry from the past or the future that the iPhone will not let you examine directly, simply open your Palm OS handheld and find it within DateBk6. My personal plans for syncing between Pimlical Desktop, Google Calendar, the iPhone, and a Palm OS handheld (let alone, iCloud) are even more extensive than this advice, but this is the general structure. Best, HyperScheduler --- In [email protected], Sandy Sawyer <ssadesign@...> wrote: > > Is it true that iPhone 4 will only search back through one (1) year of data/ records? > > Sandy > > VIA HANDHELD > > On Nov 14, 2011, at 2:06 PM, "lars_hallstroem_eriksen" <lars_hallstroem_eriksen@...> wrote: > > > To move data from Palm Desktop to iPhone or iPad, try Companion Link (www.companionlink.com). It costs 50 USD, but it's free to try for 14 days, so if you just want to move the data and then never sync to Palm Desktop again, it should be free of charge. I haven't tried it myself though. I have bought an Android phone and 99% decided on Pimlical Android in order to retain all the functionality I am used to, although I do find the user interface of Pimlical Desktop overly complicated (and Pimlical Android is supposed to be mostly the same because it's the same Java code). > > > > Lars > > > > --- In [email protected], "d.craig" <d3nn151950@> wrote: > > > > > > Kevin, > > > I have to say "Amen" to every point you made about the DateBk! I have been using a Palm Centro for about 4 years, and have had DateBk longer than that. > > > I am moving to the iPhone4, for the same reasons that you mentioned--I have totally gone Apple in everything else: iMac, MacBook Pro, iPad, iPod Touch; so going to the iPhone seemed to be the only logical choice. > > > I have had a chance to go through all of my contacts, and have my contacts from my Palm to the Mac complete. > > > Now to the Calendar: I want to get ALL of my calendar, with years of "stuff", on the IOS and/or iCloud, etc. > > > Do you have any updated suggestions? > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "lufades" <lufad@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Calengoo do floating tasks if you sync with Google task, in advanced setting you can set: "Show passed due tasks on today" or something like this (on my iPod Calengoo is in french). It is not as flexible as DateBk but it's a debut. It will float until you mark it done. > > > > > > > > Luc > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], John Messeder <john@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > CalenGoo does floating events?? How? I'm not seeing that. > > > > > -- > > > > > John Messeder, JAFPR, MBS > > > > > 60 Woodcrest Drive > > > > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > > Ph: 717.253.0605 > > > > > > > > > > Visit JohnMesseder.com > > > > > of Follow me on: > > > > > Facebook/jmesseder2 > > > > > Or > > > > > Twitter/jmesseder2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lufades <lufad@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I also like very much DateBk but no luck on iOs, I am reading about Pocket Informant and WeekCal both are good but if you need something closer to BateBk on iOs have a look at Calengoo it support iOs calendar, Google calendar, Google Task - recurring tasks - floating tasks - and a lot of possibilities of customizations. The learning is a little steep but if you used BateBk you know that it's not always easy to have a good Calendar app. > > > > > I have no connections with Calengoo except that I am a very satisfied customer. > > > > > > > > > > Luc > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Kevin Quosig <kevin@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > THE SHORT ANSWER: > > > > > > I went with Pocket Informant. > > > > > > > > > > > > THE LONG ANSWER: > > > > > > (With apologies to Pimlico...I just LOVED DateBk. > > > > > > Best...calendar...app...ever. Still is, IMHO. But myself and > > > > > > others here wanted to move to the iOS. So I'm answering a > > > > > > question so many of us ask here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > When searching for a new smart device as my Centro ages, I was > > > > > > dismayed that there was no way to get a "smart" phone anymore > > > > > > without a data plan, which I have no need for. I don't text and > > > > > > I don't surf the web on my phone. Apparently the Centro was the > > > > > > last of that breed. But I do have need for little pocket apps > > > > > > like DateBk, SplashID, and other utilities that are far beyond > > > > > > the capabilities of "dumb" phones. For years I carried a Palm > > > > > > Pilot and "dumb" phone separately, but once you've had > > > > > > convergence, it's hard to contemplate going back to two separate devices. > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other side, as much as I loved Palm, they more than once, > > > > > > and finally rather permanently, abandoned Mac users. Palm > > > > > > Desktop was rather flakey, and I had to rely on the wonderful, > > > > > > but third-party, Missing Sync to get any useful backup of the > > > > > > Centro's content (or get data onto the phone). This has annoyed > > > > > > me for years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > So my main decision to go iOS as a primarily Mac user was one of > > > > > > mitigating being orphaned/abandoned...which is a likely scenario > > > > > > with Windows Mobile, Palm, Android, etc. Frankly the Android was > > > > > > very tempting, but given Apple-Google sparring and the > > > > > > fragmentation of the OS, I decided I would rather have the > > > > > > stability, if sometimes weird-thinking, and "sure to work with > > > > > > my Mac" of iOS. Just my take on things, YMMV. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other problem was the way DateBk started focusing on the > > > > > > desktop. In my case, I live and worked ON THE DEVICE. I rarely > > > > > > used the desktop end except as backup or when the phone died, > > > > > > was left at home, etc. I wanted to use it in meetings and on the > > > > > > fly...and having "full function on the desktop, but stuck with > > > > > > built-in features on the phone" was not an option. > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the end I spent alot of time researching feature sets, and > > > > > > found that many DateBk users had moved to Pocket Informant--to > > > > > > the point where the developers were all too familiar with people > > > > > > asking "DateBk does this, can Pocket Informant?" Also helps that > > > > > > PI is available on every popular mobile platform: Blackberry, > > > > > > Droid, iOS, etc. So no matter where you headed after Palm, you > > > > > > could get PI. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does it do everything DB does? Nope, but in my case, fairly > > > > > > close, and coming releases look to be filling those gaps. To be > > > > > > fair, Pocket Informant for the iOS is just getting to version > > > > > > 2--DateBk was on version 6 and has been around for what, a > > > > > > decade? No way anyone can expect feature parity given that disparity. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did have to re-adjust the way I do things, which is expected > > > > > > for any switch. I've had the most difficulty "avoiding the > > > > > > cloud." Many modern iOS apps rely on the cloud (Google, > > > > > > ToodleDo, etc.) to get around the iOS's annoying "can only sync > > > > > > things on ONE machine" (unlike Palm's "I can sync on every > > > > > > machine you own and keep them all straight"--I used to sync at > > > > > > home and at work on the Palm), since I do NOT want my data in > > > > > > the cloud. But that's an Apple problem, not PI's. And PI may be > > > > > > getting around that in version 2 (and a Mac desktop app is > > > > > > planned in the future). > > > > > > > > > > > > The developers are great, and the company is small enough where > > > > > > the CEO often answers Forum questions. I spoke at length with > > > > > > one of the iOS devs at MacWorld. PI 2.0, coming very soon, is > > > > > > even supposedly going to work around the problem of > > > > > > device-to-device syncing (keeping say, an iPad and iPhone with > > > > > > the same PI data on them). > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case, I was given a work incentive that made getting an > > > > > > iPad cheap, which became my laptop and "big PDA." For more > > > > > > convenience, and through another incentive, I'll be using an > > > > > > iPod Touch paired with it. I'm slowly moving my data off the > > > > > > Centro as needed and when it dies in the future, it'll be > > > > > > replaced probably by the smallest "dumb" phone I can get with > > > > > > good reception, or whatever the "free with a plan" phone is at > > > > > > the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, DateBk is still the best datebook application I've > > > > > > ever used (and on the flip side, iCal is by far the worst). And > > > > > > in many ways I can see why Pimlico didn't jump to iOS. DateBk > > > > > > was created on the most popular (and pretty much ONLY) PDA at > > > > > > the time by ONE man. When PalmOS vanished, I can certainly > > > > > > understand moving to where most of his customers went > > > > > > (apparently Android). And to be further fair, Android will at > > > > > > some point (if not already) outsell iOS. iOS, Apple's approval > > > > > > process, etc. can also be infuriating. For Apple/iOS users, > > > > > > that's just the way it goes, and I certainly won't be bitter > > > > > > about it. Though I can't help being sad to leave such a > > > > > > powerful, feature-rich application behind. :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ USEFUL LINKS AND WEBPAGES FOR PIMLICODATEBK ------------------------------------------- Post a message: [email protected] Unsubscribe: pimlicodatebk-unsubscribe-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org Previous messages (view/search): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pimlicodatebk/messages Pimlico: http://www.PimlicoSoftware.com For information about Pimlical, the desktop calendar: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/pimlicalpreview.htm To discuss Pimlical, please join the Pimlical group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pimlical DateBk4 FAQ: http://www.PimlicoSoftware.com/datebk4faq.htm DateBk5 FAQ: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/datebk5faq.htm DateBk Cookbook: http://how.to/datebk-cookbook DateBk Wiki: http://oldgods.net/cgi-bin/datebk_wiki Neither Pimlico, the developer, nor the list owner is responsible for content.Yahoo! 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