Re: Re: How I moved from DateBk to iOS
Martin N <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:58:25 +0000
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Annoyingly Palm had this limitation of a year for the Pre series as well :( Thankfully there is a Preware patch to get around it. Martin N At 22:11 14/11/2011, you wrote: > > >Sad but true. I mean, I am not even sure if the iPhone will search >back through AS MUCH AS 1 year of data/records. Therefore, I >recommend the following plan: > >1) Sync your iPhone resident calendar app to Google Calendar (I >guess that this is handled through Exchange but I am not sure). > >2) Install the Pimlical Desktop version that allows HotSyncing with >a Palm OS handheld. > >3) Sync your Pimlical Desktop with Google Calendar, so that any >changes that you made on your iPhone or that you made within Google >Calendar will go inside/populate/sync with your Pimlical Desktop calendar. > >4) Once per week on Sunday nights, execute the following: > >a) Open Pimlical Desktop and sync with Google Calendar. > >b) After Pimlical Desktop absorbs all of your week's worth of Google >Calendaring and iPhone calendaring--that is, after Pimlical is >synced with Google Calendar and hence is now up to date and >current--perform a HotSync between Pimlical Desktop and your Palm OS handheld. > >c) Place your Palm OS handheld in your purse or briefcase. > >5) During the week, whenever you need to examine your calendar for >an entry from the past or the future that the iPhone will not let >you examine directly, simply open your Palm OS handheld and find it >within DateBk6. > >My personal plans for syncing between Pimlical Desktop, Google >Calendar, the iPhone, and a Palm OS handheld (let alone, iCloud) are >even more extensive than this advice, but this is the general structure. > >Best, > >HyperScheduler > >--- In ><mailto:pimlicodatebk%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected], >Sandy Sawyer <ssadesign@...> wrote: > > > > Is it true that iPhone 4 will only search back through one (1) > year of data/ records? > > > > Sandy > > > > VIA HANDHELD > > > > On Nov 14, 2011, at 2:06 PM, "lars_hallstroem_eriksen" > <lars_hallstroem_eriksen@...> wrote: > > > > > To move data from Palm Desktop to iPhone or iPad, try Companion > Link (www.companionlink.com). It costs 50 USD, but it's free to try > for 14 days, so if you just want to move the data and then never > sync to Palm Desktop again, it should be free of charge. I haven't > tried it myself though. I have bought an Android phone and 99% > decided on Pimlical Android in order to retain all the > functionality I am used to, although I do find the user interface > of Pimlical Desktop overly complicated (and Pimlical Android is > supposed to be mostly the same because it's the same Java code). > > > > > > Lars > > > > > > --- In > <mailto:pimlicodatebk%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected], > "d.craig" <d3nn151950@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Kevin, > > > > I have to say "Amen" to every point you made about the > DateBk! I have been using a Palm Centro for about 4 years, and have > had DateBk longer than that. > > > > I am moving to the iPhone4, for the same reasons that you > mentioned--I have totally gone Apple in everything else: iMac, > MacBook Pro, iPad, iPod Touch; so going to the iPhone seemed to be > the only logical choice. > > > > I have had a chance to go through all of my contacts, and > have my contacts from my Palm to the Mac complete. > > > > Now to the Calendar: I want to get ALL of my calendar, with > years of "stuff", on the IOS and/or iCloud, etc. > > > > Do you have any updated suggestions? > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > > > > > --- In > <mailto:pimlicodatebk%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected], > "lufades" <lufad@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Calengoo do floating tasks if you sync with Google task, in > advanced setting you can set: "Show passed due tasks on today" or > something like this (on my iPod Calengoo is in french). It is not > as flexible as DateBk but it's a debut. It will float until you mark it done. > > > > > > > > > > Luc > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <mailto:pimlicodatebk%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected], > John Messeder <john@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > CalenGoo does floating events?? How? I'm not seeing that. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > John Messeder, JAFPR, MBS > > > > > > 60 Woodcrest Drive > > > > > > Gettysburg, PA 17325 > > > > > > Ph: 717.253.0605 > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit JohnMesseder.com > > > > > > of Follow me on: > > > > > > Facebook/jmesseder2 > > > > > > Or > > > > > > Twitter/jmesseder2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lufades <lufad@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I also like very much DateBk but no luck on iOs, I am > reading about Pocket Informant and WeekCal both are good but if you > need something closer to BateBk on iOs have a look at Calengoo it > support iOs calendar, Google calendar, Google Task - recurring > tasks - floating tasks - and a lot of possibilities of > customizations. The learning is a little steep but if you used > BateBk you know that it's not always easy to have a good Calendar app. > > > > > > I have no connections with Calengoo except that I am a > very satisfied customer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Luc > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <mailto:pimlicodatebk%40yahoogroups.com>[email protected], > Kevin Quosig <kevin@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE SHORT ANSWER: > > > > > > > I went with Pocket Informant. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE LONG ANSWER: > > > > > > > (With apologies to Pimlico...I just LOVED DateBk. > > > > > > > Best...calendar...app...ever. Still is, IMHO. But myself and > > > > > > > others here wanted to move to the iOS. So I'm answering a > > > > > > > question so many of us ask here.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When searching for a new smart device as my Centro ages, I was > > > > > > > dismayed that there was no way to get a "smart" phone anymore > > > > > > > without a data plan, which I have no need for. I don't text and > > > > > > > I don't surf the web on my phone. Apparently the Centro was the > > > > > > > last of that breed. But I do have need for little pocket apps > > > > > > > like DateBk, SplashID, and other utilities that are far beyond > > > > > > > the capabilities of "dumb" phones. For years I carried a Palm > > > > > > > Pilot and "dumb" phone separately, but once you've had > > > > > > > convergence, it's hard to contemplate going back to two > separate devices. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other side, as much as I loved Palm, they more than once, > > > > > > > and finally rather permanently, abandoned Mac users. Palm > > > > > > > Desktop was rather flakey, and I had to rely on the wonderful, > > > > > > > but third-party, Missing Sync to get any useful backup of the > > > > > > > Centro's content (or get data onto the phone). This has annoyed > > > > > > > me for years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So my main decision to go iOS as a primarily Mac user was one of > > > > > > > mitigating being orphaned/abandoned...which is a likely scenario > > > > > > > with Windows Mobile, Palm, Android, etc. Frankly the Android was > > > > > > > very tempting, but given Apple-Google sparring and the > > > > > > > fragmentation of the OS, I decided I would rather have the > > > > > > > stability, if sometimes weird-thinking, and "sure to work with > > > > > > > my Mac" of iOS. Just my take on things, YMMV. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other problem was the way DateBk started focusing on the > > > > > > > desktop. In my case, I live and worked ON THE DEVICE. I rarely > > > > > > > used the desktop end except as backup or when the phone died, > > > > > > > was left at home, etc. I wanted to use it in meetings and on the > > > > > > > fly...and having "full function on the desktop, but stuck with > > > > > > > built-in features on the phone" was not an option. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the end I spent alot of time researching feature sets, and > > > > > > > found that many DateBk users had moved to Pocket Informant--to > > > > > > > the point where the developers were all too familiar with people > > > > > > > asking "DateBk does this, can Pocket Informant?" Also helps that > > > > > > > PI is available on every popular mobile platform: Blackberry, > > > > > > > Droid, iOS, etc. So no matter where you headed after Palm, you > > > > > > > could get PI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does it do everything DB does? Nope, but in my case, fairly > > > > > > > close, and coming releases look to be filling those gaps. To be > > > > > > > fair, Pocket Informant for the iOS is just getting to version > > > > > > > 2--DateBk was on version 6 and has been around for what, a > > > > > > > decade? No way anyone can expect feature parity given > that disparity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did have to re-adjust the way I do things, which is expected > > > > > > > for any switch. I've had the most difficulty "avoiding the > > > > > > > cloud." Many modern iOS apps rely on the cloud (Google, > > > > > > > ToodleDo, etc.) to get around the iOS's annoying "can only sync > > > > > > > things on ONE machine" (unlike Palm's "I can sync on every > > > > > > > machine you own and keep them all straight"--I used to sync at > > > > > > > home and at work on the Palm), since I do NOT want my data in > > > > > > > the cloud. But that's an Apple problem, not PI's. And PI may be > > > > > > > getting around that in version 2 (and a Mac desktop app is > > > > > > > planned in the future). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The developers are great, and the company is small enough where > > > > > > > the CEO often answers Forum questions. I spoke at length with > > > > > > > one of the iOS devs at MacWorld. PI 2.0, coming very soon, is > > > > > > > even supposedly going to work around the problem of > > > > > > > device-to-device syncing (keeping say, an iPad and iPhone with > > > > > > > the same PI data on them). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case, I was given a work incentive that made getting an > > > > > > > iPad cheap, which became my laptop and "big PDA." For more > > > > > > > convenience, and through another incentive, I'll be using an > > > > > > > iPod Touch paired with it. I'm slowly moving my data off the > > > > > > > Centro as needed and when it dies in the future, it'll be > > > > > > > replaced probably by the smallest "dumb" phone I can get with > > > > > > > good reception, or whatever the "free with a plan" phone is at > > > > > > > the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seriously, DateBk is still the best datebook application I've > > > > > > > ever used (and on the flip side, iCal is by far the worst). And > > > > > > > in many ways I can see why Pimlico didn't jump to iOS. DateBk > > > > > > > was created on the most popular (and pretty much ONLY) PDA at > > > > > > > the time by ONE man. When PalmOS vanished, I can certainly > > > > > > > understand moving to where most of his customers went > > > > > > > (apparently Android). And to be further fair, Android will at > > > > > > > some point (if not already) outsell iOS. iOS, Apple's approval > > > > > > > process, etc. can also be infuriating. For Apple/iOS users, > > > > > > > that's just the way it goes, and I certainly won't be bitter > > > > > > > about it. 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