Re: Re: Find Crash

Again, due to how the Find function actually works on Palm devices, it is probably misleading you to think an innocent app is crashing.

Here is an entry from the HandyShopper Frequently Asked Questions, which applies to both HandyShopper and Icon Manager.  Also, sometimes people suggest to use FindTester to see which application is crashing.  But actually FindTester does not work on OS5 devices -- FindTester itself will crash and/or give an erroneous report.  The way that FindTester tries to do stuff only works on OS4 and lower, and is explicitly incompatible with OS5.

31. Why does HandyShopper crash when I use the global Find command on my device? 

  a.. The odds are a few thousand to one that actually it is some other app that is crashing. Here is a brief explanation of why that happens and what to do about it. 
  b.. Why: Due to how the Palm OS works, it's a common newbie Palm programming mistake to have crashing bugs in an app when a global Find happens. People usually assume that the last app name shown is the one that crashed. But in fact what happens is that improperly written apps crash immediately when the Palm OS notifies them that the user is doing a Find. Each app is responsible to draw its name, so the fact that an app's name got drawn means it did not crash immediately, and therefore most likely did not crash at all -- instead it was whatever app came next that actually crashed. 
  c.. What to do: If you installed other apps recently, try removing them in groups. If the Find starts working after you remove a particular group, then you can reinstall the suspect apps one at a time until Find starts crashing again, and then you will have found which app is causing the crash. You can also try backing up all your HandyShopper data and then removing HandyShopper from the device, and verify that the global Find still crashes even without HandyShopper on the device, in which case you can at least rule out HandyShopper as the cause. 




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: puntoyaparteconsultores 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:10 PM
  Subject: [IconMgr] Re: Find Crash


  Thanks for answer but my device is a treo 650 and i dont know its have the same 
  problems than a t5
  mac

  --- In [email protected], "Steve" <kunkel321@...> wrote:
  >
  > --- In [email protected], "jeffmdehart" <jmdehart@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Has anyone had a problem with the TX or T5 crashing when using the
  > > Find funtion? I have been trying to find the problem for a while. It
  > > went away when I removed icon manager. I vaugly remember a message
  > > when first syncing the new device that icon manager would have
  > > problems with the device.
  > > 
  > > Is there a memory architecture issue? 
  > > 
  > > Is there a fix?
  > > 
  > > Jeff
  > >
  > 
  > Have not seen this with my T5. If your's is an older T5, make sure 
  > you've installed the free T5 Updater 1.1 from the Palm website. tI 
  > hink it's very unlikely that this will be your problem, but if you have 
  > a really large icon set that you're working on in RAM, then you try to 
  > activate the find feature, the T5 may not be able to transfer things 
  > back to the Flash (NV) memory fast enough before accessing all the 
  > other stuff it wants to search. This can cause a crash and is a 
  > problem inherent in the newer NVFS Palms... Though I'm not enough of an 
  > expert to say for sure if this is likely to happen when using 
  > IconMgr ... Maybe Chris or another member can expand further... At any 
  > rate you can check to see if your Palm has the update... google "T5 
  > updater" or such.
  >



   

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